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Rudolf Spielmann vs Alexander Flamberg
"Mannheim Steamroller" (game of the day Apr-02-16)
Mannheim (1914)  ·  Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Kaufmann Variation (C29)  ·  1-0
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Dec-15-04  notyetagm: no development => loss
Jan-15-06  DeepBlade: White's development looks like the regular development with the Blackmar Diemer gambit.
Jun-29-06  LivBlockade: <notyetagm> no development => Mannheim Steamroller
Apr-13-09  WhiteRook48: no development => being rolled over by a thousand-ton-weight
May-24-10  zb2cr: Using crafty 23.2 to analyze 15. ... f5 leads to the following conclusion: White's possible move 16. Rhd1 is far stronger than the workmanlike 16. Bb5+.

Lines from crafty:

+12.15 16. ♖hd1, ♗e7; 17. ♖xf5, ♕xc4; 18. ♗xe7, ♘c6; 19. ♗c5, ♘e7; 20. ♕e3, ♕xc5; 21. ♖xc5, ♖d8; 22. ♖xd8+, ♔xd8; 23. ♕d4+, ♔e8; 24. ♕xg7.

+2.53 16. ♗b5+, ♘c6; 17. ♕xe4+, fxe4; 18. ♗xc6+, bxc6; 19. ♖e5+, ♔d7; 20. ♖d1+, ♔c7; 21. ♗d4, ♗d6; 22. ♖xe4, ♖hg8; 23. ♖f1, ♖gf8; 24. ♖xf8, ♖xf8; 25. ♖e1, ♖f7; 26. ♗xa7.

Jun-16-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  wordfunph: game quote..

"From an instructive point of view, the clearance sacrifice of the two pawns is of greater value than the sacrifice of the queen."

- Rudolf Spielmann

Feb-04-12  fokers13: Rhd1 is mate in 13 according to Houdini.

I really liked 16.Bxf8 after 15..f5 mostly because it continues to drop the queen:)(it's +10.00).

Jul-20-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  An Englishman: Good Evening: A very slow but highly picturesque finish after 15...f5 is 16.Qxe4,fxe4; 17.Bb5+,Kf7; 18.Rf1+,Kg8?; 19.Rd8. Also works after 18...Ke6 or 18...Kg6, but the position after 18...Kg8 must count among the more spectacular examples of paralysis.
Jul-20-14  morfishine: Since there is no swindle, there is no Flim-Flam; and since there is no Flim-Flam, there is no pun

Simpler would've been to work in the word 'Flambe' and call it a day

Jul-20-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Black got Flambeed, right enough.
Jul-20-14  ASchultz: Flamberg faces the flamberge.
Jul-20-14  backrank: Spielmann made a tarte flambee out of Flamberg.
Jul-20-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  patfoley: After 15...f5, I like 16 Re5ch
Jul-20-14  backyard pawn: "Mannheim Steamroller"
Jul-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Mate will come quickly from this brutal attack.
Apr-02-16  JimNorCal: Nice pun!
Apr-02-16  morfishine: Flamberg got flambe'd, but whats a "Mannheim steamroller"?
Apr-02-16  AlicesKnight: A Mannheim steamroller (apart from anything else) is a musical device in 18th-century orchestral writing - an irresistible crescendo of sound (like Spielmann's pile-up of pieces against the BK). Mieses rightly compares this game to Anderssen-Schallopp (1864), I think.
Apr-02-16  morfishine: <AlicesKnight> Thanks, I was just about to google it
Apr-02-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  johnlspouge: For further background on the Mannheim Steamroller, here is the Wikipedia article on the Mannheim School, an orchestra and opera company which was based at the elector's court at Mannheim, Germany from 1720 to 1781.

[ http://www.conservapedia.com/Mannhe... ]

Apr-02-16  JimNorCal: Mannheim Steamroller is also a music group. Their music is classics based but with elements of pop and electronics. I'm sure YouTube would have free samples.
Apr-02-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Black's queen cannot move...so she is a gonner.
Apr-02-16  morfishine: What a mess
Apr-02-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  Honza Cervenka: Quite convincing refutation of that idea with 7...Bxf3 and 8...Qh4+.
Apr-02-16  RandomVisitor: 5...Bc5 might be better for black, as in:


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Komodo-9.42-64bit:

-0.28/32 5...Bc5 6.d4 Bb4 7.a3 Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 Nxc3 9.Qd3 Ne4 10.c4 0-0 11.Qc2 Nc6 12.Bd3 Bg4 13.0-0 Bxf3 14.gxf3 dxc4 15.Qxc4 Na5 16.Qa4 Nc5 17.Bxh7+ Kxh7 18.dxc5 Qd5 19.Qxa5 Qd4+ 20.Be3 Qxe3+ 21.Kh1 b6 22.Rae1 Qxf3+ 23.Rxf3 bxa5 24.Kg2 Rae8 25.e6 Re7 26.Rxf7 Rexf7 27.exf7 Rxf7 28.Re6 Rd7 29.Ra6 Rd2+ 30.Kg3 Rd3+ 31.Kf4 Rxa3

-0.15/32 5...c6 6.Qe2 Ng5 7.Nxg5 Qxg5 8.d3 Qg6 9.Qf2 Be7 10.Be2 f6 11.exf6 0-0 12.0-0 Bxf6 13.Bf4 Bh3 14.Qg3 Bd4+ 15.Kh1 Qxg3 16.Bxg3 Rxf1+ 17.Rxf1 Be6 18.Bf3 Nd7 19.Ne2 Be3 20.Bf2 Bxf2 21.Rxf2 Ne5 22.Kg1 Re8 23.Nd4 Nxf3+ 24.Rxf3 Bg4 25.Rf1 c5 26.Nf5 Re2

-0.14/32 5...a6 6.Qe2 Bf5 7.d3 Nxc3 8.bxc3 Be7 9.Rb1 b5 10.Nd4 Bc8 11.g4 Bh4+ 12.Kd1 0-0 13.Nf5 Nc6 14.d4 Na5 15.Qf3 h6 16.a4 Nc4 17.Bxc4 bxc4 18.Rg1 Be6 19.Rb7 Kh8 20.Rf1 Re8 21.Nxh4 Qxh4 22.h3 Qe7 23.Rf2 Rab8 24.Rxb8 Rxb8

also, 6...Nxc3 for perhaps an equal game.

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