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Rudolf Spielmann vs Savielly Tartakower
"Savvy Savielly" (game of the day Sep-18-2016)
Copenhagen (1923), Copenhagen DEN, rd 7, Mar-10
Caro-Kann Defense: Exchange Variation (B13)  ·  0-1

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Oct-11-08  Chessmensch: <ThePawnOTron2> That sounds like something Yogi Berra would have said, but it's not in his list of quotations: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/q...
Oct-11-08  ThePawnOTron2: Chessmensch, I don't know where it's from, but it's definitely not from me. :-)

--ThePawnOTron2

Oct-11-08  kevin86: It is rare to see the king of the winning side is so far advanced with both rooks and queen on the board for both sides.
Oct-11-08
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  Jimfromprovidence: White missed a really strong attacking move, 24 Rd7!, threatening Rf7+.


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If 24…Qxg2, 25 Rf7+ Kg5 26 Qe7+ etc., winning material.

If 24…Rxd7, 25 Qxd7, threatening Qc6+, winning the rook. If 25…Qxg2, then 26 Qd4+, which should lead to a draw by perpetual check. If 25…Kg5, then 26 Qxh7, again leading to a draw by repetition.

Oct-11-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: How come my King marches always end badly?
Oct-11-08  A.G. Argent: <CapablancaFan...one of the most wildest king marches...> Yes sir, extremely deft manoeuvering but he's being checked and chased, all forced moves. You wanna see an amazing, voluntary march of the King, check out Fischer's inexorably bringing of his King all the way from one diagonal around and down to the other to become a major part of his offense in his winning attack in Armando-Acevedo-Millan vs Robert James Fischer, 1970.
Oct-11-08  Alphastar: This game reminds me of a wild king hunt I once performed in a blitz game. Chased the black king all over the board until it was at h2, sheltered by my own pawns. Then I chased it back to g8 or so, I really didn't get anything out of it. Game ended in a draw
Oct-11-08  ruyfanatic: Black has a wicked pawn structure.
Oct-12-08  DoubleCheck: <<Jimfromprovidence> White missed a really strong attacking move, 24 Rd7!, threatening Rf7+. >

Couldnt black just play the counter threat of 24... Rab8 now the queen is somewhat pinned to the mate of ...Qb2

Just a possibility

Oct-12-08  ThePawnOTron2: That is true, DoubleCheck! 24.Rd7 Rab8 25.Rd6+ [decoy] Kg5 White is run out of checks (25...Ke5? 26.Qd5+ [pin-breaking with tempo].) This is not a very detailed analysis but the game seems to be in Black's favor.

--ThePawnOTron2

Oct-12-08  ThePawnOTron2: Stupid me! That'll teach me not to analyse without a chessboard! After 24.Rd7 Rab8?! 25.Rf7+! Kg5 26.Qe7+ Kf4 27.Qc7+, White forces draw. Then 24...Rxd7 25.Qxd7 is equal IMO.

--ThePawnOTron2

Oct-13-08  DoubleCheck: <<ThePawnOTron2>: That is true, DoubleCheck! 24.Rd7 Rab8 25.Rd6+ [decoy] Kg5 White is run out of checks (25...Ke5? 26.Qd5+ [pin-breaking with tempo].) This is not a very detailed analysis but the game seems to be in Black's favor.>

Just to follow up
I found this line;

24. Rd7 Rab8!?
25. Rf7+ Kg5
26. Qe7+ Kf4 (26...Kh5/h6 is met with 27. Rxh7 mate)
27. Qc7+ Ke3
28. Qc5+ Ke2
(note now how white has pushed the king in front of the queen gaining time for white) 29. Qc7 Qxg2?
30. Rc1! and white now is far better

What do you think <ThePawnOTron2> ?

Jun-02-15  Mating Net: <If Tartakower was alive, he'd probably be rolling over in his grave.> That was pretty funny<ThePawnOTron2> not sure if it was intentional.
Apr-09-16
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  Richard Taylor: I found this game in 'Attack and Counterattack in Chess' by Fred Reinfeld. My father sighed it in 1960. I was 12, I was studying a lot of chess books and I think I played through either all or some of these games. Some a very good examples of attack and defense. This Reinfeld calls "One of the most original games ever played, and one of the finest examples of cool, resourceful chess under very trying circumstances."
Apr-09-16
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  Richard Taylor: < Jimfromprovidence: White missed a really strong attacking move, 24 Rd7!, threatening Rf7+.

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If 24…Qxg2, 25 Rf7+ Kg5 26 Qe7+ etc., winning material.

If 24…Rxd7, 25 Qxd7, threatening Qc6+, winning the rook. If 25…Qxg2, then 26 Qd4+, which should lead to a draw by perpetual check. If 25…Kg5, then 26 Qxh7, again leading to a draw by repetition.>

Rd7 seems the best according to my machine. The Rf8 by Black is best I think. But it would have ruined a great game!

Sep-18-16  stst: TarTaKower! - c.f. Rubinstein... never made to the top.... what a fate!!

But surely compared to the level of Capa-Alek-Morph-Fish-Tal, they could easily be rated down.

Sep-18-16  morfishine: "Coffee House" chess and another dumb game title

*****

Sep-18-16  matvox: How about 'Tartakower Takes Over'?
Sep-18-16  RandomVisitor: 25.Qc7 and 26.Qc7 were both missed opportunities for white.
Sep-18-16  RandomVisitor: 13.Qb3 is strong.
Sep-18-16  RandomVisitor: After 12...Nxe5


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Komodo-10.1-64bit:

<+0.71/32 13.Qb3> Qf6 14.Qb5+ Bd7 15.Qxb7 Qc6 16.Qxc6 Bxc6 17.0-0-0 Bf6 18.Be2 0-0 19.Nc4 Nd3+ 20.Bxd3 exd3 21.f3 Bd5 22.Na5 Bxa2 23.Rxd3 Rfe8 24.Rhd1 Re6 25.Rd6 Rae8 26.R1d2 g5 27.Bg3 Rxd6 28.Bxd6 Kf7 29.Kc2 Rc8 30.Bg3 Rd8 31.Rxd8 Bxd8 32.Nc6 Bb6 33.Bb8 a6

+0.11/32 13.0-0 Nxc4 14.Qa4+ Bd7 15.Qxc4 Qb6 16.Rfe1 Bb5 17.Qb3 Bd3 18.Nc4 Qxb3 19.Nd6+ Kd7 20.axb3 Kc6 21.f3 Bh6 22.Bxh6 Kxd6 23.Kf2 a6 24.Red1 Kc6 25.Rd2 Rhe8 26.b4 Re6 27.b3 Rae8 28.fxe4 fxe4 29.Ke3 Rf6 30.c4 Rf5 31.Ra5 Rf1 32.Rc5+ Kb6 33.Rd5 Kc6

Sep-19-16  kevin86: Tartakower wins the spiel,white's attack petered out, and he was swamped by the whirlwind
Dec-28-17  Albion 1959: I first came across game this back in 1977, in Reinfeld's "Chess Attack" 1954 by Sterling publishing. It features on page 127 and forms part of the how to defend chapter. When I was first learning the moves, it was knights before bishops, develop pieces and castle early. King safety was and still is paramount. But every now and again, a game like this appears that contradicts and even flouts these established principles! Ke7-f6-g4 etc, what is going here here? With the passing of time as my knowledge and understanding of the game developed, it became clear what black's strategy was all about. Reinfeld waxed lyrical about this game, as if somehow black's king walk was inspired brilliance, it was certainly imaginative, but it was a risky concept. Both sides made mistakes, of course Reinfeld back in the 1950's did not have the use of a search engine or the strongest of computer programmes. I gave this the Rybka treatment. The key position was on move 32 vwhen Tartakower played Rc8, Rybka gave this ?? and suggested Re8 instead. This over protects the e4 square and would have prevented a tactical shot that Spielmann actually missed! 32. Qd5 Rc8
33. Rxe4+!! How could a tactician like Spielmann miss this shot? 33. fxe
34.Qg5+ Kh3
35.Rh1+ Rh2
36.Rg1 Wins
Also winning was
33.Rxe4+ Rxe4
34.Qe5+ Kg4
35.Qxe4+ Kh5
36.Qd5+ Kh6
37.Qxg2 Regains the rook and white is a pawn up and must be winning here? One more thing, if
37.Qxg2 Rxc3??
38.Qg5+ Kg7
39.Qe5+ Wins the greedy rook on c3!
There are numerous game like this, which enthuse about brilliant and inspired play, but with 21st century hindsight through technology, these games are ultimately unsound! That still does not stop me from playing through and enjoying games like this. Chess should be colourful, entertaining and fun. It does not always have to be an exact science:
Dec-24-18  Albion 1959: Jim from Providence and Richard Taylor. 24.Rd7 "A strong attacking move" This is not as strong as it looks. After a rook exchange on d7, black plays Rf8 drawing the sting from any further threats. If white tries g4 to open lines, black can counterattack with Rf7, hitting the queen on d7. What black must not do, is play Qxg2? This would allow white to force a draw by perpetual check by Qd4+. 24. Rd7 is a good try, though it appears to fall short. This is still a fascinating game to play through after all these years. Spielmann, an attack-minded player, not quite as good as Alekhine. Against Tartakower, an imaginative creative player, something akin to Bronstein, though again, not quite in the same league!
Dec-25-23  Albion 1959: Had another look at this game. And I still stand by Rybka's 33. Rxe4+!! This is the saving shot. Tartakower should on move 32 have played the prophylactic Re8 !! Covering the e4 square. Now after 34. Qd1 Qe3, black still has the better game due to the passed pawn on e3 and the greater piece activity. Don't see that many games where the king successfully marches into the enemy territory and win ! I think Nigel Short did it against Timman? I know that Bent Larsen did it in 1977. Does anyone else know of any other such games ?
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