chessgames.com

Wilhelm Steinitz vs Emanuel Lasker
St. Petersburg 1895-96 (1896)  ·  Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack (D35)  ·  1-0
To move:
Last move:

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 31 times; par: 53 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 45 more Steinitz/Lasker games
sac: 14.Qxe4 PGN: download | view Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: The tournament is found above the game. For the newest chess events, this information may be a link which takes you to the tournament page which includes other games, a crosstable, discussion, etc.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Pgn4web Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jun-01-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Shams: <iron maiden> not sure, but 17...Rg8 18.Rxh7+ Qxh7 19.Qxf6+ is very interesting. black can force the queens off (or white may have a perpetual?) but white looks like he gets 4 pawns and play for the rook.
Jun-01-05  iron maiden: Instead of Rxh7+, which allows Black at least a perpetual, White can pull back the queen and then put all the major pieces on the h-file.
Jun-01-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Shams: pull her back where? black threatens to play Bc6-e8-g6, and white needs several moves to treble the heavy pieces.

you have judged the 4 pawns for the rook insufficient, I take it?

Jun-01-05  mack: 6.c5 is appalling though.
Jun-01-05  iron maiden: Without the queens on the board, yes. <pull her back where?> Maybe to e4 to keep watch on the e-pawn? That way if Lasker wants to bring the B to g6, White gets at least three pawns for the piece.
Jun-01-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Shams: 17...Rg8 18.Qe4 Be8 19.Qxe6 (19.Bxe6?? Bg6 ) ...Qxe6 20.Bxe6 Rxg3 and two white pawns hang. you need to find an improvement for white's 19th, I think.
Jun-01-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Boomie: 17...Rg8 leads to a playable game, but not with 18...Be8?, which fails miserably.

17... Rg8 18. Qh6 Rg7

(18... Be8? 19. Bd3 Rxg3

(19... Rg4 20. Ne2 Qg7 21. Qxh7+ Qxh7 22. Rxh7+ Kg8 23. Rxc7 Rg7 24. Rxg7+ Bxg7) with 5(!) pawns for the piece.

20. Nf3 Rg7 21. g4 Qf7 22. g5 Be7 23. Rh2) and the attack on the h-file cannot be stopped.

This line gives one answer to the question "Why Na5"?

19. Nf3 Na5 20. Bd3 Ba4 21. Rdg1 Nb3+ 22. Kb1 Rd8 23. g4 Nxc5 24. Bc4 Rxg4 25. dxc5 Bc6 Ka1 a5 27. Be2 Qg7 28. Qxg7+ Rxg7 29. Rh6 Rg6 30. Rxg6 hxg6 31. g4

Aug-03-05  dac1990: This game should go into that "Picteresque Positions" collection as the "flying v" of pawns.
Aug-04-05  iron maiden: Unfortunately that collection probably won't be added to in the near future.
Nov-30-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  KingG: This is a fantastic game by Steinitz. Who said that Queen's Gambit Declined had to be boring? It's a shame that Capablanca and Alekhine didn't take a leaf out of Steinitz's book for their match.
Nov-30-05  Guest1825: If lightning, blitz terms are used for games faster than 40 minutes. What do they call games that take 8 hours to finish: Steinblitz, Lightninglasker?
Jun-03-06  shutupimthinking: At the risk of sounding foolish: is the sac 10...Nxd4 playable? After 11.exd4 Qxd4 12.Be3 Qe5 black threatens f5, but after 12. Bxc7 I'm not so sure. Can someone give me a solid refutation?
Jun-03-06  beatgiant: <shutupimthinking>

<After 11.exd4 Qxd4 12.Be3 Qe5 black threatens f5>

After the above, White has 13. Ne2 preventing f4 and in turn threatening Bd4. It looks like White is on top there.

Jun-03-06  shutupimthinking: <beatgiant>

Thanks.

Jul-10-08  AAAAron: Steinitz harnessess all of his deep down power from the midst of his beard. And a swell beard it is indeed.
Sep-07-09  WhiteRook48: the revenge of steinitz
Nov-10-09  timothee3331: Ne4?? is the decisive mistake and it has been proved since Tarrasch-Von Scheve. After N takes pawn takes, the plan is to attack e4 with the pieces so to force f5 and then play f3 to open the g-file. Then the sacrifice played by Steinitz is nice.
Mar-11-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <timothee3331: Ne4?? is the decisive mistake and it has been proved since Tarrasch-Von Scheve. >

Don't believe everything you read. When I was just starting out, someone played ...Ne4 against me in a position like this. I knew about Tarrasch-Scheve, so I figured the game was in the bag...I got crushed. And ...Ne4 is still very much with us.

The funny thing is, in this game Lasker's "blunder" is preceded by Steinitz' c4-c5 -- and there are books that make that move sound like a decisive error too. But what do Steinitz and Lasker know? They're only the first and second world chess champions.

Oct-07-10  igiene: "Don't believe everything you read".
A very wise advice.
Oct-07-10  igiene: 4..Be7 is probably too slow after 4.Bf4, while is good after 4.Bg5. Perhaps is better 4..c5 to stop c5-advance by White, as suggested by Nunn
Feb-02-11  timothee3331: Well actually do not believe I am the one to believe everything I read. But clearly in this instance, the plan developped by Tarrasch applies straightforwardly. Strange you did not say a word about it, that was supposed to be the point of my comment....

And if you had studied the classics a little more, you would know that c5 has often been played and from very long ago when Black had already played a6... So here it may be an experiment, a strategic risk by Steinitz: Try the same structure in a less favourable instance

Feb-02-11  timothee3331: Then Of course if somebody is stupid enough to believe that White is winning for instance in the Lasker Defence or some other serious opening where the very same move occurs, that is another story...
Sep-23-11  Kasparovsky5: Steinitz had: 28.Bxh7 (Threatening:29.Bg6+,Kg8.30.Rh8#),Re7. 29.Be4+,Kg8.30.Rh8+,Kf7.31.R1h7+,Ke8.32.Bg6+,Rf7- .33.Bxf7+ mating.
Mar-24-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Steinitz vs Lasker, 1896.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF STEINITZ.
Your score: 65 (par = 53)

LTJ

Mar-28-12  Anderssen99: LoveThatJoker: Find a good line for Black after: 28.Bxh7! .
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

A free online guide presented by Chessgames.com
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other users.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
Blow the Whistle See something which violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.


NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
The World's Greatest Chess Games- 100 Games
by 50movesaheadofyou
Best Games of the World Champions
by Checkmate4327
chocobonbon's favorite games
by chocobonbon
Harrwitz Attack
by Galaad
Rook's File Attack
from Frank124c's Favorite Games--Themes by frank124c
The Dark Side
by lonchaney
Wilhelm Steinitz's Best Games
by KingG
a Steinitz Stonewall points to a sideline R gun
from chess strategems vi - under construction by gauer
How much we can learn from Steinitz !!
from The Art of Chess ! by arielbekarov
ray keene's favorite games
by ray keene
Zugged's rep
by Zugged
9
from 125 Greatest Chess Games by ghardy1988
Influenced Gazza - Chibu
from old masters by totololo
THE REVENGE OF STEINITZ
from GLINVIN DIVINE CHESS COLLECTION # 2 by GLINVIN
1 e4 or 1d4: Steinitz was the PRO!!!!!!!
from A A Steinitz: Chess mensch [agt71's favorite] by agt71
Game 8
from The World's Greatest Chess Games by AndreaCoda
1. d4!
by Benjamin Lau
World Champions' Best Games
by Sui Generis
Wilhelm Steinitz
by blues66
Game 8
from World's Greatest Chess Games by Anatoly21
plus 11 more collections (not shown)


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Little ChessPartner | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2013, Chessgames Services LLC
Web design & database development by 20/20 Technologies