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|Feb-25-05|| ||Zaius: Why is 12. fxg4 not played? I assume a strong threat to the king but I don't see it. |
|Feb-25-05|| ||woodenbishop: A game well worth analysis... Marshall is clearly out played in this exciting game. |
|Apr-26-05|| ||tacticalmonster: This game showed how weak Marshall was. Apparently Black was only marginally better in the opening. But then black thoughtlessly play some unsound sacrifices, hoping for an attack.|
In this game, we can see Marshall's desire for an attack. This is totally different from capablanca who only look at the position and make correct judgement. You have got the feeling that Marshall attacked for the sake of attack, which is why he could never outplay capablanca
|Apr-26-05|| ||azaris: <tacticalmonster> It doesn't make him weak, just foolhardy. Like certain players in our time, he seemed more interested in winning brilliantly than winning. To be fair, only one or two players ever could outplay Capablanca and even they couldn't do so with any regularity.|
|Apr-26-05|| ||fenno: <Zaius> 12. fxg4? Bc5|
|Apr-26-05|| ||Autoreparaturwerkbau: What is the strongest follow-up for white here?|
|May-03-05|| ||ArturoRivera: Someone said Marshall never got such a beating... (Nutsaboutchess), want to bet?|
Marshall vs Carlos Torre, 1925
|May-03-05|| ||Benzol: Here's another game Marshall lost in under twenty moves.
Alapin vs Marshall, 1905|
|Jun-19-05|| ||Georgie Dubb: <Zaius>
It seems 12.fxg4 is not played because it permits the attack 12 ...Bh4+ 13.Kd1 (13. g3 ?! Rh8-e8 !) Rh8-e8 14.Qd3 Qxg4+ 15.Be2 Rxe2 16.Qxe2 Qxf4 etc...
|Aug-25-05|| ||Ulhumbrus: Instead of 9...Bg4, 9...Bf5 avoids f3 with tempo, and attacks the c2 pawn.Black may have some advantage in development then. Marshall's choice was played successfully by Edward Lasker against Duersson. The score to that game can be found in Edward Lasker's book "chess secrets I learned from the masters". Sultan Khan's 9 Ne2! may offer the best defence for white, and even appropriate the advantage if Black misplays it, which Marshall does.|
|Aug-25-05|| ||chancho: Marshall was problably praying for 15.Qxc5?? when 15...Qxd2+!16 Rxd2 Re1+ is mate on the next move.Sultan Khan must have heard of that old saying of bewaring of Greek gifts.|
|May-15-07|| ||Emma: Had Marshall been drinking before this game?|
|May-15-07|| ||keypusher: <emma> Fundamental rules of chess history:|
1. Only Alekhine ever lost a game because of drinking.
2. It was only on account of drinking that Alekhine ever lost.
Game Collection: Alekhine was drunk!
|May-15-07|| ||suenteus po 147: From Tartakower's book of the tournament: "It was shaping up to be a rather unremarkable day for the assembled players. Nimzowitsch, Colle, and Ahues had elected solid, but rather dull opening moves with which to develop their games against their respective opponents. At one point I, looking up from my board, happened to catch Messr. Przepiorka nodding off in his seat, the tip of his nose catching in the stiff collar of his shirt and waking him intermittantly. I was rather embarrassed for Nimzowitsch, but I don't believe he ever once noticed, his gaze fixed as stone on the position, his eyes flaring like small stove flames. However, excitement descended upon us in the form of the American's game against Sultan Khan. Marshall had been having a bad go of the tournament (only a half point after three rounds, partly my own doing) and he had been drinking heavily the night before. My opponent, the Englishman Thomas, leaned over the board in a moment's indiscreet conspiracy and whispered that it was not pineapple juice Marshall was sipping from his flask in-between moves. Almost everyone rose from their seats to view the commotion when Marshall slammed a piece down and whooped incessantly (Aron alone stayed in his seat, oblivious to everything but the board in front of him. Perhaps he saw Caissa in the position...emerging from a bath). Anyway, Marshall had sacrificed a rook (ill-advisedly I'll add, the position is hardly worth edification to you careful students) and Sultan Khan was sitting upright and grimacing, no doubt insulted by the Yankee's audacity. "Let's see you handle that. Let's just see you handle that," Marshall said, a rosy smile, and nose, on his face. Ever the mediator (see my round two diplomacy with Rubinstein, tastfully rendered on page 34) I encouraged Thomas to handle his Anglo cousin. Thomas refused, crying off that he didn't even like America. I was forced to intervene. I managed to get Marshall away from the board and settled (I also managed to get his flask away, he told me later it was 'Wild Turkey' and never has fowl been so fair) and once he returned to the position, he saw that Sultan Khan had moved his queen easily out of the way. Committed to the bitterest of ends, Marshall moved quickly, perhaps hoping to incite his opponent into error, but Sultan Khan would not grant him the luxury. He was a silent and determined attacker, and after a few more moves it was over. I patted Marshall reassuringly on the shoulder and told him the hotel still had plenty of 'turkey' if he desired it, though I neglected to mention it didn't come in a bottle. We all reclaimed our seats, satisfied that the day's excitement had been met, and resumed our games. All except for Aron, of course. As I prepared to move, I looked up and saw a small smile creep onto his face. He had finally found the move he was looking for, reached out slowly, and moved his rook pawn forward a single pace.|
|May-15-07|| ||keypusher: <suenteus po> Shenanigans! Nimzowitsch pushed a rook pawn one square forward on move 8, which was far too soon for the Sultan Khan-Marshall fireworks, and on move 36, which was far too late. :)|
Nimzowitsch vs Przepiorka, 1930
|May-15-07|| ||suenteus po 147: <keypusher> It is ever my goal to make my fictions transparent for what they are. Besides, it's funnier to know Nimzowitsch missed all the excitement to play h3 (or h4) :)|
|Oct-29-10|| ||jessicafischerqueen: According to biographer <R.N. Coles>:|
In this game,
<"Sultan has unwittingly chosen one of the more hazardous openings against a master with a record of brilliancies in open games, and as will be seen, Marshall is psychologically unable to resist a try for a brilliancy against this inexperienced opponent.">
Coles on 12...Rhe8-
<"Unsound, though White has to exercise great care against the resulting attack. Black had nothing better than to withdraw the bishop.">
--"The Best Games of Sultan Khan"
|Mar-15-11|| ||BwanaVa: So Marshall drank Wild Turkey? Somehow I would have seen him as a Makers Mark kind of guy...|
|Mar-15-11|| ||Chesschatology: Tartakower is hilarious! If only he were around today.|
|Mar-30-11|| ||sfm: 15.-,Qxd2+ "almost works". But white has
17.Qd1! and wins.
|Aug-21-12|| ||iqbalianpawn: Guys, Anybody can explain the 16th move for black.. Why is the Queen immune? I think that black can equalize the position.. Q takes Q, knight takes Q and Rook takes knight..|
|Aug-21-12|| ||jahhaj: <iqbalianpawn> I don't have a computer to check but 16.Qd5 Qxd5 17.Nxd5 Rxd5 18.Bc4 seems to win an exchange in all variations.|
|Aug-21-12|| ||Tired Tim: Then Bc4?|
|May-15-15|| ||Oliveira: Yep, 16... ♕xd5 17.♘xd5 ♖xd5 18.♗c4! ♖xd2 19.♔xd2 ♘e5 20.♗d3 ♖xd3 21.cxd3, and White is winning, though Black can put up much more resistance this way than with Marshall's 16... ♕e7?|
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Position after 21.cxd3
|May-15-15|| ||Oliveira: <suenteus po 147: It is ever my goal to make my fictions transparent for what they are.>|
I'm confused. Is the Tartakower's account for real?
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