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|Apr-27-05|| ||lopium: What a Knight's capture!|
|Jul-03-10|| ||YoungEd: White to move, move 18...good Monday or Tuesday puzzle. Hard to see the reason behind 17...fd7?|
|Oct-25-10|| ||lost in space: I love Mondays!
18. f4 and the knight is gone
|Oct-25-10|| ||dzechiel: White to move (18?). Material even. "Very Easy."
Mir Sultat Khan. This is one of chess history's most interesting footnotes. His biography on Chessgames is kinda sparse, but check out is bio on Wikepedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_Su...
OK, while the ultimate solution is very easy, it took me a few minutes to find it (after looking for checkmates, then threats on the king, I finally got around to looking at threats on the minor pieces).
attacks the knight that has nowhere to run. The only question is how long much longer black played on.
Time to check.
|Oct-25-10|| ||Brandon plays: f4 to win the knight seems reasonable. I don't really see that blacks gets any real compensation for this.|
|Oct-25-10|| ||M.Hassan: Looks like White can get a piece by moving 18.f4|
|Oct-25-10|| ||SufferingBruin: <dzechiel> that wikipedia link made for some interesting reading. Many thanks.|
|Oct-25-10|| ||groobs168: I liked this puzzle. Reminded me that not all Mondays are Queen sacs or short mating nets.|
|Oct-25-10|| ||patzer2: It's Monday and 18. f4! traps Black's errant Knight.|
|Oct-25-10|| ||Formula7: 18.f4 traps and wins a piece. Time to check.|
|Oct-25-10|| ||checkmateyourmove: im so use to quick mates and big sacs for mondays , this took me a while for monday. i consider this a monday evening puzzle , for the extra seconds needed to solve...:)|
|Oct-25-10|| ||Nullifidian: I initially looked for a mate, but the position is too poorly developed for any mate threat, so that left a decisive advantage and I saw...|
18. f4 traps the knight.
|Oct-25-10|| ||EXIDE: Looked for attack on king, did not see any. So I looked to trap the Queen, and that was also not possible, finally I found the pawn move that traps the knight. A little bit challenging for a Monday puzzle?|
|Oct-25-10|| ||Once: Knights are from Mars and bishops are from Venus ...|
I am coming to the realisation that chess is not just a game. It is a collection of different games that just happen to be played out in the same space and at the same time. Call them mini games, if you will, or games within games.
In this respect, it's a bit like golf. Putting is a very different shot from a drive off the tee. Playing out of a bunker is another shot altogether. Or the shot that I seem to spend most of my time playing, which is grubbing around in the undergrowth trying to find a lost ball. And then there's the decision about how garish your trousers should be, or ... if you are the world's number 1, how many laydeez to invite up to your hotel room.
And one of my favourite mini games in chess is the battle between bishops and knights. This is chess's version of the classic rivalries such as men vs women, restaurant critics vs celebrity chefs, cats and dogs.
Try this - put a knight on d8 and a bishop on d5.
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Who's winning? The knight is sitting smug and untouchable on the safest of safe squares. There is absolutely nothing that the bishop can do to harm it. A white squared bishop can never hop onto a dark square. It would be like a woman suddenly developing an interest in swiss army knives or a red-blooded male taking an interest in handbags. It just ain't gonna happpen.
Look a little closer, and you see that the out-of-touch bishop is actually dominating the knight. The two pieces may not be in contact yet, but if the knight tries to move the bishop will snap it off.
Look closer still, and the tables turn again. The bishop can only dominate the knight from this one square. If the bishop has to move it will lose its position of domination and the knight will be free.
Of course, this is a special case. A knight on the rim is dim and it is only on the edge of the board that this can happen. Place your knight on a central square and all of a sudden it has eight squares to jump to. And the only way that a knight on a central square is going to get trapped by a bishop is if it allows other pieces (including its own) to block off its escape routes ...
... which is what black does today. A little harder to see than normal because we normally spend Mondays putting the ball in the hole with a two foot queen sacrifice putt. So it's a bit of a change to be chipping in off the green with a knight trap pitching wedge.
|Oct-25-10|| ||stacase: It took me a while to see that Black's Knight didn't have anywhere to go.|
|Oct-25-10|| ||mig55: Keep up telling the good stories, Once....|
|Oct-25-10|| ||TheaN: Monday 25 October 2010
Taken: 0:49;599, monday ownage. Fair enough, in a game this is tons easier as it was the plan of 17.h3 and this ain't no regular Monday.
Candidates: Nd5, Nb5, <[f4]>
Typical Monday in the fact it ain't a regular one. First I went to look into Nd5 (a blunder per se as the Queen is defended) of course seeing Nb5 is better but Qb8 would hold the line, aside cxb5 >_>.
Of course then attention goes to the central Knight, but truth be told, focus on minor pieces in Monday puzzle is rather. Alas:
<18.f4 > and much can be said about how and where to lose the Knight but he is getting two pawns max, even that is a no go.
|Oct-25-10|| ||Stormbringer: Gnargh. *bangs head on keyboard* Hulk Smash Puny Monday Puzzle!!!|
Bother. Didn't get it. Got suckered in by Nd5 - black cannot capture or QxQ... oh wait, the Bishop. Double bother. Bother cubed even.
|Oct-25-10|| ||agb2002: White has the bishop pair for a bishop and a knight.|
The knight on e5 doesn't have free squares to move. Therefore, 18.f4 + -.
|Oct-25-10|| ||scormus: I havent looked at the game continuation or at any of the posts, but I'm guessing that <Once> has made a reference to Edgar Allen Poe's "The purloined letter"|
After an embarrassing amount of time I stopped looking for combinations involving 18 Nb5 or Nd5, and stopped worrying about + on the a7-g1 diagonal. The simple and immediate f4 seems to work fine. W can first play 18 Nb5 followed by N for B exchange on d6, which clears a few more pieces but doesn't look to me any better (might even be a bit worse).
There it was, prominently displayed in the middle of the table, and I could easily have missed it.
|Oct-25-10|| ||scormus: Oh well, at least I got the puzzle ....|
|Oct-25-10|| ||gus inn: Some irony here!
Monday all go looking for mates and queensacs.But no.Only a knight capture 0:)
|Oct-25-10|| ||gars: I didn't see the capture. Shame on me!|
|Oct-25-10|| ||imreker: Hahaha!
Pondering over 18. Nd5 or 18. Nb5, seeking the deflection of Bd6, so I could harass the Queen freely, thinking, thinking, thinking...
...what the? It's Monday, isn't it?
And then I glimpsed on that beautiful, centralized Knight...
Sorry Jumpin' Jack, you jumped too far.
|Oct-25-10|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: Without the commentaries by Dzechiel's sharp mind and Once's fascinating tales, reading the kibitzing wouldn't be half as interesting.|
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