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Mark Taimanov vs Igor Alexandre Nataf
Generations (1998), Cannes FRA, rd 7, Feb-27
Zukertort Opening: Nimzo-Larsen Variation (A04)  ·  0-1


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Oct-13-02  pawntificator: 24...Rxd6
Oct-13-02  pawntificator: recovering? I'm always ready
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: [previous message deleted] hold for a moment, I'm still playing Rd1 though for sure.

Hey did you see pferd take me on in the Center Counter game? How doyou like my chances?

Oct-13-02  drukenknight: 26 Be2 sorry
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: Apologies to Pawntiff, I had to take back a move. I'm sorry I"ve just started to really look at this. [had played 26 Ke2? like a fool]

The pferd game is under the Center Counter heading. It may be interesting, maybe it sux.

Have you seen us picking up Boris's resigned position for the world championship?

Do you like Kings Indian games? I've got a real gem of a game to show you, Fisher/Gligoric its crazy

Oct-13-02  drukenknight: Better show this line so far: 24...Rxd6 25 Rd1 Rh6 26 Be2
Oct-13-02  pawntificator: 26...Bf8
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: 27 Bc5

Hey you like end games? there's a fisher/reshevsky one that I'm dying to replay.

Oct-13-02  pawntificator: 27...Rc6
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: 28 Bxd6
Oct-13-02  pawntificator: 28...Rxd6 29. Rxd6 Kxd6
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: hold it hold it! I thought your king was on e8, didn't you move him back there? @#$%. hold on I've messed this up.
Oct-13-02  pawntificator: heh heh, I was going to move Kd7 eventually...just admit that Alekhine would win this ending
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: Ive got to take back 28th move, it may change this is tough sledding, I put your K on e8 when I was working out soem combo. Sheesh, my bad, my bad.
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: 28 Ba3 sorry
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: this one is easier to defend than Reti's position. that one is going to be tuff tuff tuff.
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: youre going to have to decide what to do with the K, this is what is taking the time.
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: Picking up the pieces when GMs give up here is our line so far: 24...Rxd6 25 Rd1 Rh6 26 Be2 Bf8 27 Bc5 Rc6 28 Ba3
Oct-13-02  pawntificator: 28...Kd7
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: 29 Bxd6 I would think
Oct-13-02  pawntificator: 29...Rxd6
Oct-14-02  drukenknight: "Paging Mr. Taimanov. We hope you haven't signed your score sheet." Our game continues w: 24...Rxd6 25 Rd1 Rh6 26 Be2 Bf8 27 Bc5 Rc6 28 Ba3 Kd7 29 Bxd6 Rxd6 30 c4
Oct-14-02  drukenknight: "Paging Mr. Taimanov. We hope you haven't signed your score sheet." Our game continues w: 24...Rxd6 25 Rd1 Rh6 26 Be2 Bf8 27 Bc5 Rc6 28 Ba3 Kd7 29 Bxd6 Rxd6 30 Bb5+


30....Kc7 31 Rc1 if 31...Bxc3 32 cxb3+ it is easy to draw

Nov-20-02  Cyphelium: In short I believe black is much better in the final position, though Taimanov could have played on for a while.

I guess the endgame is even after 24. -Rxd6 25.Rd1 Rb4!? 26. Rxd6 (otherwise white loses a piece) 26.-Kxd6 27.c3 Kc5 28.Bd1 (28.cxb4+ axb4 29. Bb2 Bxb3 loses a pawn)

so black might want to try to sacrifice an exchange with 24.-Rxb3 instead.

24.-Rxb3+ 25.cxb3 Rxb3+

Now 26.Ka2 seems to be bad (26.Ka2 Rxf3+ 27. Rxe6++ Kxe6 and white is worse in the endgame: he has to protect pawn f2 with Rf1 and then I think black can play Bh6 with ideas like Be3; white is terribly passive)

but 26.Kc2 Rxa3 27.Rd3 is not immediatly clear, although I think black has strong compensation for the exchange. He is a pawn up and will pick up another one after 27.-Ra2+ 28. K wherever Rxf2 and then a strong pair of bishops....well, I'll rather play black there and perhaps Taimanov would too. Anyone disagrees?

Nov-20-02  drukenknight: okay Cyph. w/ 24...Rxb3 is that what you are saying? Let me think about it I will get back to you on this. When we last played it, I thought we had Taimanov almost back to equality, the R sack should hardly be considered a ?? move. WHich is usually reserved for a move that loses the game.
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