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Mikhail Tal vs Sviridov
Stuttgart simul 1969  ·  Sicilian Defense: Dragon Variation. Yugoslav Attack Early deviations (B75)  ·  1-0


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Jul-16-05   Capafan9: <chessgames.com> Tal played this game against a man named "Sviridov"
May-04-06   dehanne: Anything wrong with 15.Nh5 for black?
Jun-23-06   RookFile: A game such as this shows the best of Tal's genius.
Oct-20-06   niemzo: I think 11...h6 is a mistake creating a weakness in the kingside.
Dec-07-06   ipatri: Brilliant, fantastic, supernatural! Thank you for this wonder, Tal!!!
Dec-26-06   laskereshevsky: HELLO
the TAL's combination in same way remind me that happened in the BOGOLJUBUV-ALEKHINE Hastings 1922, from the 29th move.

Also in that game there was a double-rook and queen sacrifice to allow a "excelsior" advance and promotion of a pawn. Just in the 1922's game the comb. was made by the black....

Of course a genius like TAL didnt need "advices", but maybe the matrix of this idea was present in same "hiden corner" of the LATVIAN player's mind.

Did the RIGA'S DRAKE ever saw the ALEKHINE'S game in same book, maybe when he was young? This isnt impossible...this game is one of the most famous (and beauty) ever played by ALEKHINE...For a top-class GM and a culturate person such TAL was, its almost impossible to didnt now that game.

Jun-14-07   outsider: the most horrible thing is that in mid-seventies somebody proved in the soviet chess press (which was of excellent quality) that in the final position, the black are not hopeless and can resist!!
Jun-14-07
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  whatthefat: <outsider>

How so? White threatens g8=Q#. If Black makes a hole for the king with either 18...Kd8, 18...e6 or moving the bishop, then White promotes anyway:

18...Kd8 19.g8=Q+ Be8 20.Qxe8+ Kxe8 21.Bxd2 with 3 pieces for the rook.

18...Ba4 19.g8=Q+ Kd7 20.Qxc8+ Kxc8 21.Bxd2 up 2 pieces

18...e6 19.g8=Q+ Ke7 20.Qxc8 winning.

Finally, inserting 18...Qxd1+ 19.Bxd1 doesn't help, since White still promotes.

Jun-15-07   Halfpricemidge: <Whatthefat> Well put!!
Jun-15-07   stanleys: <outsider> Well I would like to know how too? Could not see a better line for black than the third one given by <whatthefat>There after 20...Qxd1+21.Bxd1 Bxc8 black has only a pawn for the piece
Jun-18-07   Halfpricemidge: <Stanleys> 20...Q?? is impossible as the previous move 19. was a check against black who must block the checked king (with his bishop) or move his KING out of check.
Jun-19-07   stanleys: <Halfpricemidge:> Are you sure???Read carefully the line please, before commenting - I mentionned the THIRD ONE - after 20.Qxc8 black king is not under check.

Still want to know:Is there any escape for black??

Jun-19-07   Halfpricemidge: <Stanleys> Yes, you are correct! But the third line still leaves white with two bishops to black's one, and thus, winning. I don't know-that's my best analysis. Ask one of these other smarter guys. This game-ending also troubled me a few years ago when I first came accross it.
Jun-20-07   Halfpricemidge: Actually, the third line is incorrect for after 18...pe6 19.g8=(Q)+ ,Ke7 20.Qg7 ,Qa5 21.Bg5+ ,Ke8 22.Qg8# otherwise (to prevent the mate) black has to play 'give-away' with his Q on move 20.
Jun-25-07
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  whatthefat: 20.Qxc8+ is plenty good enough to win, but yes, 20.Qg7 looks even more crushing.
Jun-25-07
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  capatal: LIFE Master A J Goldsby claims he drew a game with Mikhail Tal.....That's very hard to visualize!
Sep-25-07   outsider: the analysis i refer to was published in the magazine "shahmaty v sssr" in somewhere around 1977 and it was by a well-known master (not grandmaster). it gave a defensive line where black end with three pieces for the white's queen. of course, i may have dreamt it, but i am dead sure that a highly qualified analytically-minded player found a way to resist. rybka someone?? don't blame/ kill the messenger, i just try to remember what i read in my adolescence
Nov-09-07
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  sallom89: wow... how the hell did the pawn get there ... he even sacrificed his queen.. brilliant!
Nov-28-07   irasta: Tal was the greatest ever.Take away the booze and tabacco which may have added to his ill health,and you have the "King of the Chess Universe". He wouldn't have had a perfect record. but if anyone could beat the computer, it was Tal.
Jan-16-08   Cibator: Black's real mistake was probably to essay the Sicilian against Tal! (To paraphrase one commentator on his performance at the 1966 Havana Olympiad.)
Aug-08-08   castelao2: Una combinacion relativamente mas sencilla, pero increible en unas simultaneas, en la posicion final es extraordinario ver como las cuatro piezas menores se defienden entre si y evitan todo contrajuego negro; la dama negra en d2 da una sensacion de tremenda impotencia
Nov-27-08
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  ChessYouGood: Tal runs into a book dragon simul opponent and brushes his teeth with him. Great game by Tal.
Feb-13-09   nuwanda:

the final position is very aesthetic, espcecially the lineup of whites bishops and knights, one bishop covering one knight and vice versa, and of course, the crucial point c2 is covered too...

Jul-31-09   WhiteRook48: 18 fxg7! instead of 18 Bxd2?
Aug-08-09   bunbun: I just love that knight-bishop formation at the end of the game- each piece is protected by and protects another in a neat little 4 piece circuit.

This game is probably most known for Tal's wizardry, but I wonder if this belongs in that collection of artistic shapes etc?

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