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Mikhail Tal vs Sviridov
"Touchdown!" (game of the day Feb-06-2011)
Stuttgart simul (1969)
Sicilian Defense: Dragon Variation. Yugoslav Attack Early deviations (B75)  ·  1-0
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Feb-06-11
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  Domdaniel: <Johnlspouge> -- <LOL. Are you ever serious? :) >

<Phony Benoni> is serious 29% of the time, humorous 41%, and somewhere in the middle for the other 30%.

The stats can be found in *Phony Benoni Explorer*, an invaluable resource for CG users.

Feb-06-11  checkmateyourmove: pawn gets to endzone , you can have that queen..:)
Feb-06-11
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  HeMateMe: I wonder how fast Tal played a game like this?
Feb-07-11
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  kevin86: White's SUPER passed pawn cannot be stopped.
Feb-07-11
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  HeMateMe: The goal line stand failed!
Feb-07-11
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  lost in space: How petty! And how elegant! How easy looking! Like french language!

Most probably I am simply too stupid for playing games like this.

SIGH.

Aug-25-11  americanlala: That queen on c2 is looking so silly,she cant eat nothing. c2 pawn and bishop on e2 are protected by knight on d4 which is protected by bishop on e3 which is protected by knight on d1 which is protected by bishop on e2....wow !!!!
Jul-02-12  lemaire90: Fabulous game !
Oct-06-12  master of defence: Who needs of a queen and a rook when you had a pawn?? And what pawn!
Feb-13-13  sorokahdeen: Oh this game is wrong, so wrong...

I'd so hate to have been Tal's vict... uh, I mean, black.

Mar-13-13  copablanco: Playing Tal if you were "out of book", you were out of luck.
Nov-18-14
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  cornflake: Mikhail Tal RIP. They'll never be another player like him. What an amazing player he was.
Feb-11-15  Mating Net: I'll bet Black thought he was winning , even planning his victory parade after 17...Qxd2.
Feb-12-15  Alblitz: Wow wow wow! The Amazing Tal!
Mar-12-15
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  Travis Bickle: Why was it that Korchnoi owned Tal?
Mar-12-15
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  keypusher: <Travis Bickle: Why was it that Korchnoi owned Tal?>

Why ask that on this page? Should people go to D Byrne vs Fischer, 1956 and ask why Bobby hated Jews?

But to answer your question, I think (i) it was an unfavorable matchup for Tal, because Korchnoi was a genius at defense and a great calculator (ii) at some point Korchnoi clearly got in his head, as Kasparov got into Shirov's head and Carlsen seems to have gotten into Nakamura's.

Mar-12-15
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Travis,

"Owned?" You must mean Korchnoi had a plus record v Tal.

If ever a player was suited to play against Tal's 'play for a win' style then it was Korchnoi. (Petrosian too had a plus on Tal though nowhere as large as Korchnoi's.).

Korchnoi's self confessed hero was Lasker who too took on positions encouraging his opponents to over press.

Note 8 of Tal's 13 losses to Korchnoi came when Tal had the White bits so that will be the answer to your question....Tal had too many Whites. :)

Mar-12-15
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Keypusher,

We answered at the same time! Great minds etc..etc...

We also appear to agree though you have gone more on the 'Indian Sign' Korchnoi had on Tal. You are probably right, I went for, it was just Tal being Tal against a very very good chess player.

"Should people go to D Byrne vs Fischer, 1956 and ask why Bobby hated Jews?"

:)

There are 50+ posts in that thread, I bet you someone has mentioned Bobby and the Jews.

Mar-12-15
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  AylerKupp: <<Travis Bickle> Why was it that Korchnoi owned Tal?>

It all depends on what you mean by "own". I was able to find 49 Tal vs. Korchnoi games of which 19 were decisive, the other 30 games were drawn. Of the 19 decisive games, 2 were blitz games (both won by Tal) and I'm not counting them. Out of the remaining 17 decisive games played at classical time controls, 13 were won by Korchnoi and 4 were won by Tal. So, overall, Korchnoi's winning percentage in classical time control games was 59.8% and Tal's 40.2%. That's reasonably close (maybe) to correctly say that Korchnoi owned Tal, but nowhere near Carlsen's perfect owning of Nakamura at classical time controls.

But most of Korchnoi's successes came in their early meetings. From 1954 through 1969 (16 years) they played 29 games, 12 decisive, and Korchnoi won 10 and Tal won 2. From 1971 through 1992 (22 years; they didn't play a classical time control game in 1970) they played 19 games, 5 decisive, and Korchnoi won 3 and Tal won 2.

So, from 1954 through 1969 Korchnoi's winning percentage in classical time control games was 63.8% and Tal's 36.2%. But from 1971 through 1992 Korchnoi's winning percentage in classical time control games was 52.8% and Tal's 47.2%. Therefore I would say that Korchnoi pretty much owned Tal from 1954 through 1969 but Tal figured him out and from 1971 through 1992 they were pretty even. Pity that they couldn't continue playing for a few more years.

Mar-12-15  Cactusjuice: Creative
Apr-26-15  mikealando: The magician from Riga!!
Korchnoi was no pushover - twice a challenger for the World title - he knows his chess. It's rock-hard tough at the top.
Apr-14-16
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  whiteshark: Dragon players don't mind getting mated...
Aug-21-16  Jambow: Had used the Yugoslav against players rated 200-300 pts higher rated with great results. Since I started playing B20 b3 with bishop fianchetto against the Sicilian I no longer cross paths with this old friend. The motif is simple and also all the strong ideas appear to be at whites disposal.
Nov-12-16  Bubo bubo: The <Excelsior> pawn is great, but I also like how the white minor pieces are guarding each other in turn. For an example of this <closed circuit> pattern yielding checkmate see Dodge vs J R Houghteling, 1904.
Nov-14-16  spazzky: from the ending position, 18...Qxc2+ 19 Nxc2 Ba4 does allow play to continue, albeit crushed. Qxc8 might suffice
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