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Mikhail Tal vs Vasily Smyslov
"Tal Tales" (game of the day Apr-10-05)
Bled-Zagreb-Belgrade Candidates (1959)  ·  Caro-Kann Defense: Breyer Variation (B10)  ·  1-0
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Mikhail Tal vs Vasily Smyslov (1959)

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Feb-01-13  itsdroyo: Oh goodness, I didn't even see that. Thx.
Aug-02-13
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  Zhbugnoimt: Tal missed 12.Bxf7+! which is almost winning according to Houdini
Aug-02-13  DoctorD: <Zhbugnoimt>: "Tal missed 12.Bxf7+! which is almost winning according to Houdini"

Doesn't look winning to me. Analysis?

Aug-02-13
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  offramp: Two players with a total of nearly 2 years World Championshipness between them.
Aug-12-13
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  lost in space:


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12. Bxf7?!

deep shredder 12, d=23/64

A: +0,05; 12...Rxf7 13. Nxf7 Kxf7 14. Kb1 Qb6 Qf4 Kg8 16. Rhe1

12. Bxf7 is just = with less chances to continue the attack. Not the best in this position and not enough for Magic Mika

Aug-12-13
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  lost in space:


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Position after move 13 Nf5, Black to move. He played 13...Bd8.

What is wrong with 13...Bc5 14. Qf4 bxc4 15. Bc3 Re8. Looks pretty much =


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for example 16. Rxd7 Bxd7 17. Nh6 Kf8 18. Bxf6 Re6 19. Bxg7 Kxg7 20. Qxf7 Kh8


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Aug-12-13
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  lost in space: Most probably there is nothing wrong, it is just not Smyslov's style.
Aug-20-13
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  Zhbugnoimt: Houdini analysis is 1,000,000 times better than deep shredders. Number one. Number 2, instead of 14.Kb1 14.Rhe1! And I've seen some good lines though I'm not sure whether they're right. More details soon
Oct-21-13  bkpov: if you are against a solid player like Smyslov, go for unprecedented move- you open up so many unchartered possibilities that they get rattled.
Mar-11-14
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  keypusher: <gars: <FSR> and <perfidious>: I quote from page fifteen of Levy's book: "In my opinion, however, the game, attractive though it is, can in no way be held in such high exaltation. It was merely the fact that the combination was created by a thirteen-old boy that brought the game so much publicity. Had it been played in the Barnet League between two sixty-year-old men it is doubtful whether it would have been considered worthy of publication".>

If that game was played by two sixty-year-olds in the Barnet League nowadays, the winner would get strip-searched. Well, actually, people would just wonder why the geezers were replaying D. Byrne-Fischer, but you get the idea.

Jul-02-14
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  parisattack: Open lines and superior development in the opening - the recipe for a Tal combination.
Jul-31-14
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  Penguincw: Analysis for this game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-0S....
Jul-31-14
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  Mating Net: I love the picture! Both champs are dressed like gentlemen and have an intense look on their faces.

19 White to move is such a typical Tal position. His Queen is hanging, Knight is hanging, his King is about to get checked, but he has everything under control.

Oct-14-14
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  juan31: Para mi criterio este juego es propio de un genio, Master Tal.
Nov-15-14  thegoodanarchist: Smyslov described Tal's play as "just tricks"! Hahaha, it's just tricks? NO, it is MAGIC!
Mar-03-15
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  perfidious: <FSR: A.J. Goldsby in his site on D. Byrne-Fischer notes that in <The Mammoth Book of the World's Greatest Chess Games> Nunn, Emms and Burgess give the game 13 points out of a possible 15. They only give two games a perfect 15, and three games a 14....>

That is some dang good company.

<Soltis ranks the game No. 28 in his book <The 100 Best Chess Games of The 20th Century, Ranked>. I'm guessing that there aren't any games by 60-year-olds playing in the Barnet League in those books.>

How many points of a possible fifteen might Levy give D Byrne-Fischer? Ten? Eight? Five?

May-17-15  abadravi: Who says this is old , this is youngest game..
May-21-15  newzild: Further to the debate between <Zhbugnoimt>, <DoctorD> and <lost in space>, the more modern engine Stockfish does prefer 12.Bxf7+, giving an evaluation of +0.36 after 12...Rxf7 13. Nxf7 Kxf7 14. Kb1 Qb6 15. Qf4. In other words, Stockfish considers this to be an edge for White, but not "winning".
May-21-15  newzild: ...Stockfish says that the decisive blunder is 18...Nf6?? (+3.50), giving 18...Bf6 as equal ( 0.00).
Jun-13-15
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  perfidious: <newzild> The position after 15.Qf4 seems objectively not bad, but subjectively not to Tal's taste at the time, given his love of complex play. The Tal of the 1970s and later may well have gone in for the line you give, though.
Jun-14-15
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  lost in space: <<newzild:> Further to the debate between <Zhbugnoimt>, <DoctorD> and <lost in space>, the more modern engine Stockfish does prefer 12.Bxf7+, giving an evaluation of +0.36 after 12...Rxf7 13. Nxf7 Kxf7 14. Kb1 Qb6 15. Qf4. In other words, Stockfish considers this to be an edge for White, but not "winning“.>

Agreed

Jul-25-15  thegoodanarchist: This game, IMO, is the <real> game of the century.

And this is from someone who views Fischer as the greatest ever.

Jul-26-15  HeMateMe: Where is the Barnet league, anyway?
Jul-28-15  turcoknight: Why not 21..Qxd1 first and then 22..Kxf2? Queen Will Be lost anyway but it Will capture white rook first. Please explain.
Jul-28-15  turcoknight: Sorry i meant 20..Qxd1
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