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|Mar-11-14|| ||keypusher: <gars: <FSR> and <perfidious>: I quote from page fifteen of Levy's book: "In my opinion, however, the game, attractive though it is, can in no way be held in such high exaltation. It was merely the fact that the combination was created by a thirteen-old boy that brought the game so much publicity. Had it been played in the Barnet League between two sixty-year-old men it is doubtful whether it would have been considered worthy of publication".>|
If that game was played by two sixty-year-olds in the Barnet League nowadays, the winner would get strip-searched. Well, actually, people would just wonder why the geezers were replaying D. Byrne-Fischer, but you get the idea.
|Jul-02-14|| ||parisattack: Open lines and superior development in the opening - the recipe for a Tal combination.|
|Jul-31-14|| ||Penguincw: Analysis for this game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-0S....|
|Jul-31-14|| ||Mating Net: I love the picture! Both champs are dressed like gentlemen and have an intense look on their faces.|
19 White to move is such a typical Tal position. His Queen is hanging, Knight is hanging, his King is about to get checked, but he has everything under control.
|Oct-14-14|| ||juan31: Para mi criterio este juego es propio de un genio, Master Tal.|
|Nov-15-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: Smyslov described Tal's play as "just tricks"! Hahaha, it's just tricks? NO, it is MAGIC!|
|Mar-03-15|| ||perfidious: <FSR: A.J. Goldsby in his site on D. Byrne-Fischer notes that in <The Mammoth Book of the World's Greatest Chess Games> Nunn, Emms and Burgess give the game 13 points out of a possible 15. They only give two games a perfect 15, and three games a 14....>|
That is some dang good company.
<Soltis ranks the game No. 28 in his book <The 100 Best Chess Games of The 20th Century, Ranked>. I'm guessing that there aren't any games by 60-year-olds playing in the Barnet League in those books.>
How many points of a possible fifteen might Levy give D Byrne-Fischer? Ten? Eight? Five?
|May-17-15|| ||abadravi: Who says this is old , this is youngest game..|
|May-21-15|| ||newzild: Further to the debate between <Zhbugnoimt>, <DoctorD> and <lost in space>, the more modern engine Stockfish does prefer 12.Bxf7+, giving an evaluation of +0.36 after 12...Rxf7 13. Nxf7 Kxf7 14. Kb1 Qb6 15. Qf4. In other words, Stockfish considers this to be an edge for White, but not "winning".|
|May-21-15|| ||newzild: ...Stockfish says that the decisive blunder is 18...Nf6?? (+3.50), giving 18...Bf6 as equal ( 0.00).|
|Jun-13-15|| ||perfidious: <newzild> The position after 15.Qf4 seems objectively not bad, but subjectively not to Tal's taste at the time, given his love of complex play. The Tal of the 1970s and later may well have gone in for the line you give, though.|
|Jun-14-15|| ||lost in space: <<newzild:> Further to the debate between <Zhbugnoimt>, <DoctorD> and <lost in space>, the more modern engine Stockfish does prefer 12.Bxf7+, giving an evaluation of +0.36 after 12...Rxf7 13. Nxf7 Kxf7 14. Kb1 Qb6 15. Qf4. In other words, Stockfish considers this to be an edge for White, but not "winning“.>|
|Jul-25-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: This game, IMO, is the <real> game of the century.|
And this is from someone who views Fischer as the greatest ever.
|Jul-26-15|| ||HeMateMe: Where is the Barnet league, anyway?|
|Jul-28-15|| ||turcoknight: Why not 21..Qxd1 first and then 22..Kxf2? Queen Will Be lost anyway but it Will capture white rook first. Please explain.|
|Jul-28-15|| ||turcoknight: Sorry i meant 20..Qxd1|
|Oct-09-15|| ||st.dvy: Just like all of you, I love studying grandmaster games, especially those of the super greats. Smyslov is probably among the top 10 players that ever played, but doesn't get the credit. Tal, like Fischer and Kasparov are everyone's favorites; yet Smyslov had a winning record against Tal and played in more world championship situations than Tal and Fischer...combined!
Anyway, I can't believe how poorly Smyslov plays this game. Examine the position after 11.Bc4: Tal has 5 developed pieces directed at your boy's king, while my boy has one...his queen ?!? The queen rook can spring into action at any time but will never be needed. I'm just a lowly, B player, but I can tell you, I've NEVER had a position this poor before my 11th move.The whole attacking and capturing the king's bishop is just so slow and wrong. Smyslov is attacking a bishop while Tal is sending THE TEAM to his king!!!
I don't care what you say, 15..Nh5 is ludicrous. Simply move the knight the other way to e8 and the attack is finished. Black would have 5, count 'em, 5 pieces on the back rank but the attack would be over and Tal would be demoralized and the counter attack could begin. "Think like Petrosian, play like Tal"..or something like that!|
|Oct-09-15|| ||beatgiant: <st.dvy>
<Simply move the knight the other way to e8 and the attack is finished. Black would have 5, count 'em, 5 pieces on the back rank>
15...Ne8 16. Qxd8 Qxa2 17. Bc3 now where's your counter-attack?
|Oct-09-15|| ||Mehem: There's nothing wrong with Black's position after the opening. It may seem underdevelopped but the counterplay on Q-side and lack of weaknesses give an equal game. Smyslov lost due to the tragic blunder 18... Nf6?? but after 18... Bc7 Tal has no better choice than to force a draw with repetition 19.Nxf7+ Kg8 20.Nh6+ Kh8 21.Nf7+|
|Nov-26-15|| ||teddyo: <turcoknight> 20...Qxd1 loses the bishop on d8 - the white knight escapes; 20...Rxf7 drops the exchange. It looks counter-intuitive though admittedly.|
|Nov-29-15|| ||st.dvy: You are right about 15...Ne8 16. Qxd8. Smyslov played even worse than I was giving him credit for. Tal was simply amazing, period!|
|Nov-30-15|| ||offramp: Poor Smyslov is the victim of a drive-by graffitist.|
|Dec-10-15|| ||nilanjanasm: Bobojjj|
|Dec-21-15|| ||yurikvelo: Smyslov lost game after 10. ... Qa5 (following 11. ... b5 minor mistake).
But Tal, playing 12.Bd2 give Smyslov chance for 3-rep draw, which Smyslov didn't see (18. ... Bc7 or 18. ... Bf6 lead to repetition possibility).|
If consider neither Tal nor Smyslov see this deep tactical draw possibility - 18. ... Nf6 is not a blunder, game was lost due to weak Smyslov opening play:
full game multiPV
|Dec-21-15|| ||offramp: I play the Caro-Kann, because it is Mt Rushmore-like in its solidity.|
So my admiration for Tal is colossal; who else could get a position like this
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at move 7 in a Caro-Kann? Against Smyslov??! Total wizardry.
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