| Oct-29-04 |
| Camus: What would white have played after 27. ... Re8? Perhaps 28. f6? But is the position so hopeless that black should resign immediately? |
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| Oct-29-04 |
| sandy simpson: <camus> Maybe white just plays 28.Re3 and then the Black Q has no moves and the White Queen hoovers up the Q-side pawns and anything else that is not nailed down. Can't see Black with much counter play. |
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| Oct-29-04 |
| clapperrail: After 27 .. Re8, a plan for White could be play on the C file with Kg2, Rc3 followed by Rc7. |
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| Oct-29-04 |
| delterp: After 27)...Re8, black is essentially a queen down, since white simply guards the exit square e1 with 28) Ke1. Bishop check on b5 is parried by advance of c pawn. Black's only attempt is to liberate the queen with 27)...h5, which opens his king to attack.
My intial thought of 25) Rxe7 fails quickly to ...Rg2+!
Further 27)...Re8 is unneccesary as white does not wish to open e file and create double attack on e1 by rook and queen. |
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| Mar-06-09 |
| Al2009: Although strange, may be Tal missed a more brilliant way to win before, according to his famous attacking style.
After 16...h6; instead of 17 Qh2 (too slow), Tal could have played 17. Nf4! gxf4 18. Rxf4 (with idea Rh4 and Rg4, framing the Queen) and it seems difficult for Black to get a chance against the terrible attack on g and h files.
If 18...Qg5 19. Rg4! etc.
If 18...Nh7 19. Rg4, Ng5 20. Bxg5, hxg5 21. Rxg5, Qh6 22. Rf1! (with idea Rf4-Rh4) etc. |
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| Mar-06-09 |
| ughaibu: What about 17.Nf4 gf4 18.Rf4 Rc3? |
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| Mar-06-09 |
| Al2009: Oh yeah! I considered that, but after 18...Rxc3 19. bxc3, Qe2 (the most active, threatening Nh5) 20. Re1, Nh5 21. Qxg7!, Kxg7 22. Rxe2, Nxf4 23. Bxf4, Nxb3 24. cxb3 White gets a pawn up and a clearly won ending even with contrary bishops (but with rooks still playing, contrary bishops count for nothing). Moreover, the isolated pawn h6 is difficult to difend. May be someone could believe that Tal didn't want to enter an endgame, even won, but I didn't think so. Tal used many times to play brilliant sacs and then enter won endgames.
Probably he just missed this blow.
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| Mar-07-09 |
| Al2009: But another reason why 17. Nf4 seems better than 17. Qh2 is that after 17...Nc4 18. Bd4, Nxb2 19. Rae1 (as played in the game), Gasic could play the tactical blow 19...Ng4!, with very much better chances, e.g.: a) 20. hxg4, Bxd4+ 21. Nxd4, Qxh2+ 22. Kxh2, Rxc3 and White is a pawn down with no compensation at all, or b) 20. Qg3!, Bxd4+ 21. Nxd4, Nf6 and Black has still material advantage, but may be White can try to equalize e.g.: 22. e5!, dxe5 23. Rxe5, Qh4! 24. Qxh4 (24.Qe3, Nc4 etc.) gxh4 25. Ncb5, Rc5!. 26. Rfe1! Nc4 etc., unclear and complicated position but probably draw ending. |
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sac: 26.Rxf3