|Jul-04-03|| ||ksadler: Sorry to keep spamming with the Chess.fm posts, but I had some time this morning and have been going through their flash presentations. This game is annotated at http://www.chess.fm/tamburro/060403... |
|Jul-04-03|| ||drukenknight: 20...d5? maybe |
|Jul-04-03|| ||ksadler: 20. .. d5 definitely slows down the immediate assault, although the win is still there. The idea is to double the rooks along the h-file for a winning attack, and White has to watch out for the move g4 eventually which will drop the g6-Bishop. After 21. Ree1 for example, White can't prevent 22. g5 winning the Bishop. If 21. .. Bxf4 then 22. Rh1+ Bh6 23. g5 wins the piece anyway. |
|Jul-07-03|| ||drunknight II: I dont think black would do Bxf4. Maybe 21...g6. Also it would be bad to pin the B by 22...Bh6, since black has material, white is on the attack maybe that is okay, and now I want to create a positional problem? That is a good way to mess up a balanced game; by creating a positional problem out of thin air. Better to sack the B for 2 pawns and create a passed pawn. Still have problems but at least you have compensation. |
20 Re2 might be better but okay 20 Re1 g6, I guess. Dont have much time right now, hopefully I can look at this more later tonight.
|Jul-07-03|| ||ksadler: But with 21. .. g6 22. Rh1 wins the Bishop immediately. And after 21. .. Bxf4 22. Rh1+ if not 22. .. Bh6 then it is mate (22. .. Kg8 23. Qg7#). |
|Jul-08-03|| ||drukenknight: maybe I am looking at it too late. What about earlier: 17...Nxc3+|
That web site you linked to has a long time to download. perhaps the move is mentioned there.
|Jul-08-03|| ||clocked: 17...Nxc3+ still loses
white will play Rh1 and then answer f6 or f5 with g6!. If your computer tells you otherwise, don't believe it!
|Jul-08-03|| ||drukenknight: Umm, maybe if you showed a line, I could understand your explanation, here is what chessbase came up with when I stuck NxN into the computer:|
18. bxc3 Kg8
19. Rh1 f5
20. Nxe6 Bxg2
21. Nxf8 Bxh1
22. Ng6 Qb6+
now I am perfectly willing to concede that the moves near the end may not be strong. I have no idea, I have not looked at them, but at least it is a starting pt to look at.
So do you want to recapture the N w/ the pawn or the Q? I guess is the first question.
|Jul-08-03|| ||clocked: as I said above, "answer (f6 or) f5 with g6" Therefore try giving chessbase 20. g6|
note: moves like Qb6+ and Bg5 are only temporary diversions
20 ... Rfe8 Qh3
20 ... Bxg2 Qe2
20 ... Qd8 Qe2
|May-25-06|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Tal smokes one of our top American GM's ... like ribs at a barbecue.|
|Jun-15-06|| ||LIFE Master AJ: "That's not right!" (Crewman Guy, in the movie, "Galaxy Quest.")|
|Jun-15-06|| ||Marmot PFL: When I was a provisional player with a Class C rating I attacked a piece once with h6. My opponent, a B player, defended it with h4, so I took it and got mated about 6 moves later. He laughed and told his friends what a fish I was... Not very classy, but I learned the lesson. Best thing is to play a constructive waiting move, like 15...Rfd8, and let white decide what to do with the piece. For example 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17. g4 Qc5 18.g5 Bxd4 19.Qxd4 Qxd4 looks like a playable ending. Not forced but with f8 free black might be able to take the piece and run.|
|Feb-18-08|| ||Yopo: 21...Rf5 22ef5 Qc5 offers more resistance.Ater 23Qh3 check Kg8 24 c3 Be5
25Rh1 b5 26 Qh7 check Kf7 27 Qg6 check Kg6 28 Re8 check is great!Weakness in light squares is a point.|
|Aug-22-12|| ||grasser: Video:
|Mar-26-14|| ||jerseybob: Playing 14..h6 against Tal is like showing red meat to a shark. Before that blunder, i think Byrne had played fairly well; 13..Kh8! avoids the threatened 14.Nd5! How about 14..Ng8!?, and if 15.h4, Bf6!?, and black may be able to hold long enough to get his own counterplay rolling with Rfd8.|
|Jul-30-14|| ||Ke2: Awesome. I have started throwing in the Chekover partly because of this game. You either get a nice initiative after 4... a6 5. h3 as in Carlsen - G. Jones, or you get this nice position with the pressure on the e-file.|
|Dec-05-14|| ||Adriano Saldanha: ICC's stockfish after 20.g4 is +3.43|
|Feb-05-15|| ||Swedish Logician: It looks as if Tal had learned his lesson well ... Lutikov vs Tal, 1955|
|Feb-05-15|| ||perfidious: Ah, memories, if not altogether good ones: A Dueckstein vs Fischer, 1959|
No idea how I metamorphosed from <depraved> into <perfidious>.
|Mar-27-18|| ||sakredkow: The position after 15. h4 has recurred in a handful of games since, including a couple of 2400+. It looks playable for either side, just not with 15...hxg5?|