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Mikhail Tal vs Rico Mascarinas
Lvov (1981), Lvov URS, rd 5, Jun-??
Scandinavian Defense: Main Lines (B01)  ·  1-0
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Jun-20-12
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  rhickma4: If the White Bishop wasn't there, he could play Rh8+ followed by Qh6+ etc.

So 28. Bc7 1-0

Jun-20-12  sevenseaman: <LoveThatJoker> Yes, I see some guys (<Nullifidian, Patriot & Irada> are the 3 I've noted) have been alert enough to look out for 29. Qe6. Good on them.

India is oppressively hot these days. 45 to 47 degree Centigrade is quite common. Run of the mill ACs & fridges are looking out of their depth & getting to be replaced with more combative ones.

A great consolation, the other day I read the highest temp recorded on Earth's surface has been 58 degree Centigrade. Good that it was 22 years ago in Libya.

I was thinking of escaping to your part of the world for a couple of months; only the thought of 0-3 degree Centigrade hovering last winter made me postpone it to some colder stretch.

I've quite enjoyed today's puzzle even if it leaves me feeling more like a pompous preacher than a doer.

Jun-20-12
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  whiteshark: <19...0-0> Respects in doing so! Against Tal!!
Jun-20-12  sevenseaman: <M.Hassa> A nice and expansive combination that thinks of many angles. Quite enjoyed running through it.
Jun-20-12
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  Beancounter: I was pleased with myself for finding Bc7 etc but then after reading Patriot's post came down to earth again as I didn't even stop to think about Qe6 much less any possible replies to that.
Jun-20-12  poszvald: I do not know if this is the best, but I think Bc7 could do it, because:

Case 1:
28, Bc7 Qxc7
29, Rh8+ Kxh8
30, Qh6+ Kg8
31, Qh7+ Kf8
32, Qh8#

Case 2:
28, Bc7 Qe6 (to prevent future mate like in case 1)
29, Nd4 (after this black either looses queen or if queen moves away from diagonal a2-g8, than the same mate pattern than case 1)

Jun-20-12
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  OhioChessFan: I understood the point of the puzzle, clearing the Bishop off the h6 diagonal. I thought I did well with 28. Be5 Rxg6 29. Bxg7 Kxg7 30. Nxf5+ Kg8 31. Re1 etc which is an easy win, though not as clear as the game. I just missed Bc7 and inwardly groaned when the game page showed up and I saw I'd missed it.


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Jun-20-12
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  gofer: My guess is that this is a classic rook sacrifice with a queen reloader.

1 Rh8+ Kxh8
2 Qh6+ Kg8
3 Qh7+ Kf8
4 Qh8#

But with a twist, Bf4 is in the way! So we need to prepare our reloader and that means moving the bishop out the way and then moving the only defending piece...

<28 Bc7 Qe6>
<29 Nd4! ...>

The re-loader is ready. The queen cannot move or black is dead and if the queen does move the the king is dead. Time to resign.

Jun-20-12
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  gawain: 28 Bc7! clears the way for the queen to follow the rook in. That's a good puzzle.
Jun-20-12
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  gawain: Ah, I was right.... but I did not see the 28...Qe6 reply.
Jun-20-12
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  lost in space: I saw quickly htta the rook sac on h1 would work well if white could move Qh6+.

So were to move the bishop , creating a threat.

28. Bc7 (attacking the queen; would Be5 work too?) 28...Qc7 (or other queen move but 28...Qe6, allowing 32...Qg8; is case of 28...Qe6 29. Nd4 and the queen can not stay on the e6-g8 diagonal)

29. Rh8+ Kxh8 30. Qh6+ Kg8 31. Qh7+ Kf8 32. Qh8#

Jun-20-12  galdur: 28.Bc7 Qe6 29.Nd4 Rxg6 30.Nxe6 Rxe6 31.Qxd5 and black can resign


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Jun-20-12
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  agb2002: White has a knight and a pawn for a rook.

Black threatens 28... Rxg6.

White would deliver mate in four moves starting with 28.Rh8+ Kxh8 29.Qh6+ if the white bishop were not blocking the way to h6. Therefore, 28.Bc7 and Black loses the queen or receives mate:

A) 28... Qxc7 29.Rh8+, etc.

B) 28... Qe6 29.Nd4 Rxg6 (29... Qd7 30.Rh8+, etc.) 30.Nxe6 Rxe6 31.Qxd5, etc.

Jun-20-12  James D Flynn: White has a N and P for a R, otherwise material is equal. 28.Bc7 (threatens mate by 29.Rh8+ Kxh8 30.Qh6+ Kg8 31.Qh7+ Kf8 32.Qh8#. The only move to prevent that mate without losing the Q immediately is Qe6 to interpose at g8.) Qe6 29.Nd4 and the Q cannot move without allowing the mate or sacrificing itself .
Jun-20-12  LoveThatJoker: <sevenseaman: I was thinking of escaping to your part of the world for a couple of months; only the thought of 0-3 degree Centigrade hovering last winter made me postpone it to some colder stretch.>

I'm sure a relatively decent place to get some cold weather would be Greenland.

LTJ

Jun-20-12  James D Flynn: There are several moves on which Nc3+ comes into consideration for Black , the last is at 21.Bxh6 Nc3+ 22.Nxc3 bxc3 23.b3 gxh6 now Black is a piece up and threatens to mate or force the exchange of Qs via Q->b4 ->a3. It isnít immediately obvious how White will justify the sacrifice of a piece so 24.Rxd7 Qb4 25.Qe3 Qa3 26.Qc1 fxg6 27.Qxa3 Bxa3 28.Ng5 Rxf2 and both sides have a R on the 7th rank. I judge the position as quite unclear.
Jun-20-12  Crispy Seagull: 27... Nxg7 looks innocuous enough, but who knew how sensitive that c7 square was! Bc7 clears the way for the queen after the forcing Rh8 [and attacks the BQ at the same time]. Very pretty.
Jun-20-12  James Connelly: I really appreciate all the feedback and insight from the stronger players on this site. I don't often yet see the solution to the daily puzzles, or even understand the significance of the moves until I read your posts. Thank you.
Jun-20-12  numbersguy70: The pre-puzzle position comment from six years ago bears echoing. 21.Bxh6 is a classic Tal bluff. The only way black stays even or better is to accept with 21...gxh6 and basically uncastle via Kg7 and Rh8.
Jun-20-12
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  doubledrooks: I saw 28. Bc7, but overlooked the 28...Qe6 defense.
Jun-20-12
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  chrisowen: If only escry in light bishop hoof curious too know alledge in

deflect queen off rookh8+ would so it alive in c7 hinges queen

entrance in look it alimony in worth it claw back again ground in

stc7 air in case it work in gentle glimmer b6 could investiagte e6

white has now a nd4 a fish in deep trouble black choke it down in

good romp queenb6 stomp queene6 in Tal arose to the job i think

again fathom it really in light was going to win h8 h6s or bet in

good game rook up in flurry it hope in g8 king echo it sentiment in

h1 too re yoyo it f4 in long bind c7 ko nearly in angling knightd4

it he in ghosting rookg6 it's aim inceed for queen in e6 produce for

him clean in just it a nincompoop to apply it nobbled jack and jill

why it enacting lesson i see it a rote in being rookh8 i deliver it

as truth in dig low concoct it hammer in depth g6 rook off light was

some gaining ground to abide again jilted at era in queen c7 badgers

level it slight in plus for white c7 big find!

Jun-20-12  M.Hassan: <sevenseaman: M.Hassan: A nice and expansive combination that thinks of many angles. Quite enjoyed running through it.>

What a nice positive comment as always.
Thank you and with great appreciations

Jun-20-12  bachbeet: I didn't get it because I didn't see that white needed to get his bishop out of his Q's way. Very nice! From the chess puzzles given here, it seems Tal never lost.
Jun-20-12  David2009: Tal vs R Mascarinas, 1981 White 28?


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I spotted 28.Bc7 etc but not the best defence 28...Qe6! Here's a link to Crafty End Game Trainer http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... to explore the puzzle position above. Have fun finishing the robot off - if you get stuck (as I did!) consult <gofer>, <poszvald>, <LTJ> and <patzer2>'s excellent analyses for the way forward. <sevenseasman>: I recognise the feeling!

<gofer>: <The queen cannot move or black is dead and if the queen does move the the king is dead. Time to resign.> The EGT is not programmed to resign. Instead it finds resources defending when R for Q down, but the material deficit is too much.

Jun-20-12
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  Once: It's not often that you get to sacrifice the same bishop twice.
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