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|Jul-05-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&...|
|Jul-05-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera...|
|Jul-05-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: 43.Ng8+, Kf7; 44.Ng5#.|
|Jul-27-11|| ||IRONCASTLEVINAY: I have seen this game in some book
writer says "everyone will be tempted to sacrifice Knight on e5 ( on move 35.....) except TAL.
|Aug-07-11|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: This puzzle might be rather too famous for use, eh what? Just look at the number of pages of comments that already exist. In fact, I'm sure I have a comment or two buried in here somewhere.|
|Aug-07-11|| ||standardwisdom: I don't know if anyone has ever tried this, but I just played this game from the beginning at a rate of 3 moves per second, and the movie is absolutely beautiful!|
I still don't understand anything about this game (from about 26th move forward), so really nothing lost - just faster and prettier.
Try it folks! :-)
|Aug-07-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Got this one instantly ... I almost have this game memorized. |
|Aug-07-11|| ||lost in space: I know this brilliant, nice, astonishing game. I would never ever be able to "solve" such a puzzle OTB, means without knowing it is a puzzle.|
|Aug-07-11|| ||morfishine: <36.Rc5> must've come as a shock to Black|
No credit for me as I'm seen this well known Tal-gem.
<38...Qa1+> extends the game [by exchanging queens] but doesn't change the result
|Aug-07-11|| ||consul: I saw a double sacrifice of knights on e5, but i just realized that doesn't work, after seeing the game score. Too bad, i was thinking to have it solved, but i didn't considered a very simple reply from Black, which is putting the King out of the newly-opened diagonal a1-h8. True, is a sunday puzzle, and moreover it's with Tal (which i read only checking the game). :)|
Then i thought: "Well, according to Tal's most famous quote, either this sacrifice is not of his own, or CG's POTD is a spoiler!".
|Aug-07-11|| ||IRONCASTLEVINAY: As i said ive seen this game|
|Aug-07-11|| ||goodevans: It's Sunday. Let's see if I'm up to the cg.com challenge.|
It's Tal. I'm not.
|Aug-07-11|| ||IRONCASTLEVINAY: What a gem?!!!!|
|Aug-07-11|| ||Dr. J: Interesting puzzle. I got it in 3-4 minutes, including every side variation and detail.|
Now about that bridge in Brooklyn...
|Aug-07-11|| ||sevenseaman: This great game has a pride of place in my collection 'Stratagem Wins' and
I liked this game so much that I spent the most time in trying to fathom
Tal's strategic thoughts via this game.(He indeed was a very daring Master, totally unafraid!)|
Even so I do not recall all the details but I have the outline
contours of a win in my mind. Its a tough puzzle.
Without being a spoil-sport let us analyse White's strategic approach.
His Q would like a clear diagonal. The Ps e5 and d6 are thorns in his
flesh. A simplistic view will be to consume one of the Ns (any) to
to take out e5. I wonder if it works.
But I think (yes, only think!) Tal does better. In <36. Rc5> he puts up
his R for sale on c5. A very unique thought and a Masterly dare.
Q cannot take it, and the d6 P only at a great cost, as that leaves e5
unsupported and vulnerable. Its OK if we presume R will not be accepted.
The Black Q moves <36...Qa6> for more important work, so b5 falls <37. Rxb5>.
Black tries to attack the adventurous R but it goes to b8 posing new problems
for the Q. <37...Nc7 38. Rb8>
As the Q fends for itself Tal sees more than taking a R gratis. <38...Qxd3>
He strikes a more decisive blow, <39. N6xe5> a tempo fork on the Black Q.
Hjartarson responds by consolidating his position via a Q+ and by moving his now
relieved R to Ist rank he threatens mate in one.<39...Qd1+ 40. Kh2 Ra1>
click for larger view
Hjartarson may have thought he could survive a discovered check but he does not.
I cannot say I memorised all the moves but slowly, as I groped for them,
they came back one at a time. I think this is how the game goes;
<36. Rc5 Qa6 37. Rxb5 Nc7 38. Rb8 Qxd3 39. Ncxe5 Qd1+ 40. Kh2 Ra1 41. Ng4+ Kf7
42. Nh6+ Ke7 43. Ng8+ Kf7 44. Ng5#>
A great puzzle? I will disagree for two reasons.
1. Too tough and 2. Too popular a game.
The reasons place both factions, knowers and non-knowers in a quandary.
Personally, it was a delight.
|Aug-07-11|| ||newzild: I've played through this famous game before - twice I think - and I still missed it!|
36. Rc5 is so delightfully 'Tal'.
|Aug-07-11|| ||DarthStapler: Too well known to be an effective puzzle|
|Aug-07-11|| ||Ryan Razo: <DarthStapler> Ditto to that!|
|Aug-07-11|| ||abuzic: 36.Rc5, amazing accuracy of play and planning ahead. This move is like accurately cutting a fine tissue tossed in the air across a line drawn into it with a sword!|
|Aug-07-11|| ||sevenseaman: <abuzic:This move is like accurately cutting a fine tissue tossed in the air across a line drawn into it with a sword!>
An imaginative simile, truly descriptive of the game!|
|Aug-07-11|| ||awfulhangover: It's a pity he didn't play 43.Qg7+! Would have been even more awesome :-)|
|Aug-07-11|| ||sevenseaman: < awfulhangover: It's a pity he didn't play 43.Qg7+! Would have been even more awesome>.|
Please yourself. Makes no difference. Same mate; the only square the White Q was guarding would now be occupied by a Black N.
Only Tal would be guilty of wanton frivolousness towards a cornered opponent. Some call it childish or a fatuous inanity.
|Aug-07-11|| ||Archswindler: <awfulhangover: It's a pity he didn't play 43.Qg7+! Would have been even more awesome :-)>|
I don't see what is so great about that. It doesn't achieve anything except to delay mate by one move. I think Tal did better to disregard such a tacky move. Such wannabe sacrifices are not attractive at all.
|Aug-07-11|| ||Marmot PFL: Looking strong is 36 Nf3xe5 de5 37 Qxe5+, then Qe7, e5 etc with 2 passed center pawns and attack for the knight. I never even thought of the rook sac though.|
|Aug-07-11|| ||DrMAL: This puzzle was great, showing some of Tal's genius.|
In thinking for 15 minutes (alloted time) I did not carefully consider 36.Rc5 I did come up with 36.Nfxe5 dxe5 37.Qxe5+ but did not see how it would win. I would have played 36.Nfxe5 not sure if either was good enough on their own.
Apparently, 36.Rc5 was objectively the best move here, after the inaccuracy 35...Kxg7 (instead of 35...Nhxg7). Brilliant!
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