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|Dec-22-08|| ||chrisowen: Took a moment investigating it. Shame about the mistake, 28.Qd4 threw it all away.|
|Dec-22-08|| ||AnalyzeThis: This game is too bad. The interesting position is not the one after 28. Qd4, when black has an easy and simple win with 28... Re1+.|
No, the more interesting position what <white> should play on move 28.
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It seems that the common sense 28. Rf1 wins easily for white, for example 28.....Rd8 29. Qxb5 Rdd2 30. Qc5 Rxa2 31. Rxa2 Rxa2 32. b4.
So, essentially, Tal was outplayed, but won the game based on cheap trap.
|Dec-22-08|| ||yalie: took me an inordinately long time to see it. I was too focused on the f2 square.|
|Dec-22-08|| ||YouRang: <yalie: took me an inordinately long time to see it. I was too focused on the f2 square.>|
Yeah, my eye was drawn there too, and I spent a moment trying to deflect the white queen from its defense of f2.
But before long, I realized that I was deflecting the wrong thing: I need to deflect the rook that's guarding the queen! So 28...Re1+ it is, and 29.Kh2 doesn't help since 29...Qxd4 30.Rxd4 Rxa1 and I'm up a rook.
|Dec-22-08|| ||Patriot: Black's pressure on f2 diverted me for a moment from the tactic 28...Re1+ but found it quickly. If you've never seen this tactic, it can be difficult to find.|
|Dec-22-08|| ||kevin86: This is a VERY easy puzzle,only complicated by a twist. If white refuses the rook at e1,black exchanges queens and picks up the poor bystander at a1.|
Black could be fooled by 29 f1 xd1?? 30 xf6. And it is white who picks up the meagles.
|Dec-22-08|| ||Zzyw: I try to find Monday's puzzles at first glance, but in that sense I failed.|
Some blunders in this game: first Tal with 22...d5?? which gives away 2 pawns, and then Maus more than returning the favor with 28. Qd4?? where 28. Qa7 or Rf1 still had white in a winning position.
|Dec-22-08|| ||njchess: I got this one pretty quickly.
You gotta love Tal. By 18. ... e6, Tal already sees the e-file opening up. 20. ... Re8?! seems like a slip when Rd8 looks objectively better.
22. ... d5!? seems to play into White's hands since it sets off a series of tactical exchanges that favor White. But, in fact, it allows Black's queen to capture on f6 and it opens the e-file for his rook. Tal deems the loss of two pawns as more than acceptable for the attack on f2.
Up to this point, White seems to have gotten the better of Black. Moreover, Black has yet to even get a whiff of attack, but all that abruptly changes with the alarming 27. ... Re2!. All of a sudden, it's White staring at mate in two.
This is a fine example of Tal's play. Sure, it's questionable, but White must find a way to refute it. Therein lies the key. Still, my admiration for Tal aside, I chalk this one up to White blundering in the face of Re2!.
28. Qa7 is obviously better in that it doesn't blunder away the game, but White's task far from easy.
< AnalyzeThis: It seems that the common sense 28. Rf1 wins easily for white, for example 28.....Rd8 29. Qxb5 Rdd2 30. Qc5 Rxa2 31. Rxa2 Rxa2 32. b4.>
Why play 28. ... Rd8 when b4 keeps the pawn (e.g. 28. Rf1 b4 29. Rae1 Rxe1 30. Rxe1 Rd8 31. Re8+! Rxe8 32. Qxe8+ Kg7)? White is better and should still win with accurate play, but it's not an easy game.
|Dec-22-08|| ||kevin86: Caution:I think that member zzzzzzzzzzzz is part of a sleeper cell,lol|
|Dec-22-08|| ||luzhin: White's best move (instead of the losing 28.Qd4??) was probably 28.Qa7, which not only defends f2; it attacks the Rook on b8 and if the R moves then Bd5 comes next. White must then be close to winning.|
|Dec-22-08|| ||johnlspouge: < <notyetagm> wrote: Damn it! I can't believe I missed a <FORK-OVERLOAD TRICK>. >|
Take solace in the fact that you had to recognize the "Hook and Ladder Trick" upside-down. If you are White, you fall off the ladder and then ascend at CG.
Unlike some other chess sites, e.g., http://chess.emrald.net, CG does not reverse their FEN string in puzzle diagrams with "Black to move". The reversal has 2 advantages: (1) nobody ever wrongly assumes it is "White to move"; and (2) nobody ever has to "walk to the other side of the board" to play their position.
CG must have its reasons for the present convention (perhaps tradition), but they are beyond me.
|Dec-22-08|| ||TheaN: Monday 22 December 2008
Due to being pointless, as this is actually only used on CG, I will remove the White and Black positions prior to the puzzle move.
Material: /+\ 2
Candidates: Qxf2†, <[Re1†]>
<28....Re1†!> it is the defensive triangle of White that allows this combination: a1 defends e1, e1 defends both d4 and a1 and the Queen defends both Rooks. However, the Queen is defended only once, as the Rook on a1 cannot recapture on d4. This allows the key move, as:
<29.Rxe1 Qxd4 > leads to Black being up Queen for Rook. Nonetheless, what does the move threaten if White interposes or moves away? After all, e1 is defended twice and cannot be the target, nor is a1 which isn't even attacked. But hey, it's skewered to the Black Rook, and if we capture on d4, the interposing piece disappears, and the second defender...
<29.Kh2 (Bf1) Qxd4 30.Rxe1 > as 30.Rxd4 Rxa1 is deadlier.
|Dec-22-08|| ||ZUGZWANG67: 28. ...Re1+ and Black is up a rook for two pawns after 29. Kh2 Qxd4 30. Rxd4 Rxa1.
An other fact to consider was the pressure Black has against f2. But I can not see anyway to cash on it: Before bringing an other piece to the attack, Black must defend his Q.|
|Dec-22-08|| ||zenpharaohs: syracrophy: "Poor Maus! But in these days this tactic is still shocking:"|
Aronian vs Svidler, 2006
Fittingly, that was in the Tal Memorial.
Looks what happens if you don't remember Tal...
|Dec-22-08|| ||AnalyzeThis: <Why play 28. ... Rd8 when b4 keeps the pawn (e.g. 28. Rf1 b4 29. Rae1 Rxe1 30. Rxe1 Rd8 31. Re8+! Rxe8 32. Qxe8+ Kg7)? White is better and should still win with accurate play, but it's not an easy game. >|
28....b4 may be black's nest move, but 29. a3 still wins easily.
|Dec-22-08|| ||Calli: 28...Re1+ and not a creature was stirring, nicht einmal Herr Maus|
|Dec-22-08|| ||DarthStapler: Got it easily|
|Dec-22-08|| ||MostlyAverageJoe: <johnlspouge: CG must have its reasons for the present convention (perhaps tradition), but they are beyond me.>|
A plausible reason would be to exercise the ability to see the threats that your opponent has available. Although this would really require that sometimes we'd look at the white move from the black side, too.
|Dec-24-08|| ||patzer2: For the Monday Dec 22, 2008 puzzle solution, Tal removes the guard and wins the Queen with 28...Re1+!|
|Dec-29-08|| ||akapovsky: Solved it so fast I went back in time .|
|Dec-29-08|| ||NewLine: I had a strange feeling of deja vu today. I am probably tired.|
|Dec-29-08|| ||tjshann: Got it. Deja vu all over again.|
|Dec-29-08|| ||zenpharaohs: What again?
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!
Nobody should have to get this done to them twice....
|Dec-29-08|| ||sleepyirv: Somehow, patzer2 saw this coming... that's why he put the date in.|
|Dec-29-08|| ||be3292: Wasn't this the puzzle for last Monday?|
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