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|Nov-11-06|| ||HoopDreams: wow..i cant belive tal didnt play 11. Bxe5! dxe5 12. Bb5+! .... omigod omigod... but i guess his opp was a noob anyway...|
|Mar-28-07|| ||chessamateur: Black was lost when he sat down to play, but 1...c5 just made it worse.|
|Apr-24-07|| ||Magician of Riga: I don't understand the logic behind "what a fool that guy was for playing such and such opening against god himself" what would you expect the guy to do? Should he play an opening that he didn't know as well because he was so busy soiling himself with fear that he should have resigned before making his first move anyways? That attitude is rather self defeating|
|Apr-25-07|| ||chessamateur: <Magician of Riga> I agree with you. However don't take everything said around here too literally. Somethings are said just in jest.|
|May-20-07|| ||Paladin88doug: You guys that make Tal out to be a demi god, I understand he was very strong, but you still need to try your best. If the guy plays 1.c5 normally, then he was simply in his own book lines. However, we should be proud of any time we get a chance to play someone with such understanding! I would love to lose to Tal!|
|Nov-18-07|| ||sweeviltree: What a fool to play this way against Tal!!
These poor guy's egg cracks open when his manly sausage of courage dries up. Look, it dries up when he retreats the knight. Then his mistake of 15...e5 was the sound of his egg of victory cracking open. Look, 15...e5 renders him totally passive and he can do nothing but wait for the end. What good are his other moves here? Maybe 15...Nc5 this may lose a piece, yet he can survive and still fight on.
So why do I think he was a fool? Look, if you play sicilian against Tal, then it means you will have to counter. So this guy was a not smart to accept the second pawn. He was also not developing well. Look, his queen was not safe on c7, so why move there just to move her again? He thinks "Let me give Tal two moves, and try to defend against his kingside attack." Not such a good strategy. He hands Tal the initiative with the first tempo, and his head with the second.
I agree that he was not a fool to play the sicilian against Tal, I say that he was a fool for not countering when he had the chance. And look, if you think a check is an adequate counter, then think again. What a foolish check he plays, 18...Bc5+. That takes the cake of stupidity and shoves it up his nose hair.
|Dec-16-08|| ||blacksburg: ummmm...ok.....manly sausage of courage? rly?|
|Mar-06-09|| ||BKITU: My next "Rock Band" name is going to be "Manly Sausage of Courage."|
|Jul-22-09|| ||newzild: I once needed courage to eat a sausage in Manly, but that's another story.|
|Jul-15-10|| ||transpo: After 6.Bc4, correct is 6...a6 because of tactics on f7. The White N
cannot go to b5 because of the pawn on
on a6. Also Black should never move ...Nf6, as in this game, prior to ...a6 because of e5 by White. Once again the Black pawn on a6 prevents the standard tactical shots by White.
|Jul-15-10|| ||The Famous Chess Cat: <HoopDreams:wow..i cant belive tal didnt play 11. Bxe5! dxe5 12. Bb5+! .... omigod omigod... but i guess his opp was a noob anyway...>|
Doesn't that move just lose material for minimal dynamic compensation? I mean, Black can quickly castle kingside. And, axb5,Qxb5+, and Bd7 to block the check, Tal must move his Queen out of danger or sacrifice more material. Am I missing something?
|Nov-08-11|| ||LucrativePath: "The Famous Chess Cat: <HoopDreams:'wow..i cant belive tal didnt play 11. Bxe5! dxe5 12. Bb5+! .... omigod omigod... but i guess his opp was a noob anyway...>'|
Doesn't that move just lose material for minimal dynamic compensation? I mean, Black can quickly castle kingside. And, axb5,Qxb5+, and Bd7 to block the check, Tal must move his Queen out of danger or sacrifice more material. Am I missing something?"
One possible idea of 12) Bb5+
11) Bxe5 dxe5
12) Bb5+ axb5
13) Nxb5 Qb8?
14) Rc1 ...
Now White can attack with Nc7+ forking the King and Rook also preventing Black from castling Kingside. Black has no defense at this position.
12) Bb5+ is just another loaded weapon White can unleash upon Black.
However, the correct response from Black would be ...
11) Bxe5 dxe5
12) Bb5+ Nd7
White cannot advance his Knight to b5 due to his Bishop. Nd7 allows Black time to castle King side.
|Jul-09-13|| ||thegadfly: How about 10...Be7?|
|Nov-10-13|| ||ThumbTack: After 11.Bxe5 dxe5 12.B-b5+ axb5 13. Nxb5, a better Black response is 13..Q-b6. Now 14.Rc1 is met by B-c5 and the position holds. For example, after 14. b4, we have 14..Bxf2+.|
|Nov-10-13|| ||Gottschalk: 24. Nc6 looks better.|
|Nov-10-13|| ||catlover: What's amazing about this game is that black makes reasonable-looking moves, but by move 12 or 13 seems to end up trussed up like a Christmas turkey. |
On a different tack: I know this is a Smith-Morra Gambit, but somehow the pun doesn't make a lot of sense: "Morra! Morra! Morra!" ?!
|Nov-10-13|| ||thegoodanarchist: The pun is a play on the title of a movie that featured the naval air forces of the Imperial Japanese Navy bombing US military installations and fleet units in Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941.|
The movie is titled, "Tora Tora Tora". If I recall correctly, the translation is "Tiger Tiger Tiger" and was the code phrase issued by the attack commander to proceed, I think. Not 100% positive on that detail.
Anyway, great pun because Neibult got bombed too, figuratively speaking
|Nov-10-13|| ||morfishine: <thegoodanarchist> My wife is Japanese and has helped some. The kanji 突撃雷撃 roughly translates to 'lightning attack' while the literal translation of 'Tora' is torpedo attack, or attack torpedo|
The repeat of the word 'tora' 3 times as signaled from Japanese Air Leader Fuchida back to the carriers, was a code in itself meaning complete surprise has been achieved (so the accurate translation of tora is moot)
And yes, Tal achieved complete surprise torpedoing Black's defense :)
|Nov-10-13|| ||scormus: Cool pun!
<Lightning attack> or it might translate <Blitzkrieg> Well, I can appreciate how 20 Qc5 must have come as a bit of a shock.
|Nov-10-13|| ||thegoodanarchist: <morfishine> Thanks for the info!|
|Nov-10-13|| ||waustad: I remember a monograph about this opening, perhaps by Ken Smith from many years ago. I doubt that I've played it in the last 35 years.|
|Nov-10-13|| ||perfidious: <waustad>: Indeed it was Smith who wrote on this line; had a clubmate in those bad old days who swore by the Morra, and Patrick Wolff played it until he got to 2200 level.|
|Nov-12-13|| ||kevin86: Facing a Smothered mate threat or a veiled threat against the queen is the perfect time to resign.|
|Nov-19-13|| ||Mudphudder: Love this game! Can't believe Tal played this gambit. Has he ever played it back in his heydays?|
|Feb-27-16|| ||saintdufus: <ThumbTack: After 11.Bxe5 dxe5 12.B-b5+ axb5 13. Nxb5, a better Black response is 13..Q-b6. Now 14.Rc1 is met by B-c5 and the position holds. For example, after 14. b4, we have 14..Bxf2+.>
Don't forget to give attribution for this line: it is found on p. 85 of IM Marc Esserman's book *Mayhem in the Morra!* (2012), which contains some very interesting and instructive analysis on this game.|
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