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Richard Teichmann vs NN
Berlin (Germany) (1914), Berlin GER
Scandinavian Defense: Ilundain Variation (B01)  ·  1-0


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  YouRang: Once again, the solution practically jumps out at you when you consider the state of the king.

1. Black's king is nearly immobile, except for the diagonal move e8-d7.

2. This suggests a bishop attack on that diagonal (which would be mate) -- and yippee, there's our bishop all set to deliver the deadly check. Black's only defense would be to block the bishop with the knight.

3. This suggests removing that knight -- and yippee, there's the queen ready to do that! As an added bonus, the queen itself delivers check, giving black no time to avoid the bishop, so mate is forced (if 12...Kd7, then 13. Bxb5# anyway).

So basically, it's a removal of guard tactic.

May-01-07  MathijsJanssen: Easy, but pretty. I like 12...Kd7 13.Bb5# even better. A very "diagonal" mate.
May-01-07  Crowaholic: Took me only seconds because I immediately noticed that Bxb5+ is almost mate. However, the b8 knight can interfere, so hey, let's capture it with check. I found it harder to find the proper follow-up to 12. ..Kd7. I was about to content myself with 13. Qxb7+ which should be winning easily (not 13. Qxa8?? Bb4+!!) when I finally realized that Bxb5 mates after Kd7, too.

So... disaster ensues when Ghostbusters or Bishops cross their beams.

May-01-07  Crowaholic: Here's a similiar mate from one of the games I played against Chess: Titans (admittedly, this was difficulty 2 of 10...), White to play mates in two.

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May-01-07  newton296: very lame game! but white's bishop criss cross action is instructive here. Blacks losing move is 9)...Nh6?? instead, 9)... h6 or a6 or be7 or just about anything really, would have preserved a reasnable game for black except nh6??
May-01-07  Chess Classics: Got this one fast. Lot faster than yesterday, interestingly.


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  YouRang: <Crowaholic> Rc7, I think. :-)
May-01-07  newton296: crowaholic, thx for sweet game reference! very simlilar bishop idea here. Only difference here is white's Q pins the Black Q at e7 after bb5xbe7+ allowing Ne7++ instead of saking herself.
May-01-07  newton296: yourang! rc7? actually wins for black! black prevents mate and wins material after be7 x bb5 ! winning white's bishop and also threatning whites q all in the same move!
May-01-07  artemis: This game reminds me of my first ever tournament win. I was much weaker at that point probably around 800-900 strength. In the first round (my first tournament game ever!), I had lost after calculating out a sequence, but missng the fact that a pawn wasnt covering my king, so that a recapture by my opponent would be with check, ruining my plans and the game. Before the second round, I heard my next opponent say "I am playing a newbe! I am going to destroy him!", or something to that effect, where essentially every one in the tournament could here him (this was between rounds). Therefore, this game was particularly pleasing: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 Qf6 5. a3 (I was worried about pins a lot at that time... this was over 4 years ago and I have come quite a ways. 5. ... Nh6 6. Bg5 Qg6 7. e3 c5 8.cxd5 exd5 9. dxc5 Nf5 10. Nxd5 h6 11. Nc7#.

When playing the knight to c7, I, in a slightly louder than normal speaking voice said "Checkmate!" This drew the annoyed glances of everyone in the room, about to shush me, and they saw that this was the new guy who was going to be crushed...

This game was of very low quality, but even now, when I am about 1000 points stronger, I still look back on that game fondly.

May-01-07  newton296: granted white is up the exchange after white's Rxq rxr but black is still only down r for b and very much alive so of course white's best is mate in 2 bxb+ nc7++
May-01-07  Crowaholic: <YouRang>: If I remember correctly, I actually played Rc7?, but I used the undo command after ..Qxb5. (After Qxb5 Rxb5, the white rook actually prevents the knight from delivering mate.) So playing against a computer does have advantages. :o)

<newton296>'s line is correct, of course.

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  fm avari viraf: A beautiful combination but I think Black was not knowing what was coming his way otherwise he would have refrain himself from grabbing the gallant Kinght. Instead of 11...cxb5 Black should play Na6 but White still has the advantage.
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  YouRang: <Crowaholic><newton296> LOL - Well, Rc7 certainly wasn't best was it?

However, after checking with the computer, it still forces mate (but instead of mate-in-2, it's mate-in-12!).

If 1. Rc7 Bxb5 2. Rxb7 Bxa4, we now begin a king hunt:

3. Rxb8+ Kd7 4. Rd8+ Kc6 5. Rc1+ Kb5 6. Rb8+ Ka6 7. Rb6+ Ka7 8. Rc7+ Ka8 9. Ra6+ Kb8 10. Be3 (any move), and then 11. Ba7+ Ka8 12. Nb6#

Admittedly, I didn't see all of this when I first suggested Rc7. 1. Bxd7 is far better.

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  YouRang: <Crowaholic> 1. Rc7 Qxb5 is a bit trickier, but again it looks like white wins after 2. Qa7! f6 (to give king an escape) 3. a4! and black's queen has nowhere to go (it can't leave the Rb8 unguarded).

Anyway, it's an interesting position, even if you blunder (like I did) with Rc7!

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  gawain: I like it! The criss-crossing bishop mate is attractive and there is a nice preliminary point about needing to give up the queen to eliminate the pesky b8 knight.
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  michael104: According to Irving Chernev in "The 1000 Best Short Games of Chess," this game was played at rook odds -- that is, White's QR was not on the board in the initial position. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, of course, the game as given here should be corrected.
May-01-07  gambitfan: I found the solution quite quickly!
May-01-07  gambitfan: POD 01/05/2007
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  kevin86: OOPS-I erred. Obviously if the king tries to escape at d7-Bb5 is still mate as the queen and both bishops blaze along the diagonals and the untaken queen guards the last row.

I guess I missed this one-in a way.

May-01-07  concreteengineer: Nice puzzle for Tuesday. I saw the solution almost immediately. This really drives home the necessity of watching the diagonals.
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  butcher 4: Lovely excercise for the bishops,Two Cats one mouse.
May-22-07  Hot Logic: The only thing worse than Black's 8th move was his ninth move, although his fourth move comes close.

Three pieces behind in development Bb4 was screaming to be played.

This game can potentially be very instructive in terms of opening principles and strategy.

May-31-09  WhiteRook48: Boden's mate in the center
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  Phony Benoni: Chernev's "1000 Best Short Games of Chess", #144, has White giving odds of the Ra1 in this game. Is there some more definite proof, one way or the other?
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