| Jun-24-03 | | dinesh: A deadly interference!! |
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| Jun-24-03 | | Jonber: Indeed! Taking the rook on g2 was a silly mistake by Black though (move 37). |
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| Jun-24-03 | | djp: Looks like multiple options for white:
There's also 40. Nf8+. If 40. ...Qxf8, then 41. Qxe4#, I believe. |
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| Jun-24-03 | | caseyclyde: If 40. Nf8+ Qxf8, 41. Qxe4+, black plays f5 which is guarded by the queen at f8, blocking the mate. |
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| Jun-24-03 | | djp: Of course <caseyclyde>, how could I have missed that? |
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| Jun-24-03 | | NiceMove: many possibilities since Black king can't move, so any check is deadly.
i.e. 40. Nf8+ Qxf8 41. Nxf8++ is quickest.
Qxe4 has to deal with f5 to delay death for 1 move. |
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| Jun-24-03 | | nvidia: I think is better 40. Qxe4 Qxe4 41. Nf8++,
40. ...f5 41. Qxf5++ |
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| Jun-24-03 | | nvidia: I think is better 40. Qxe4+ Qxe4 41. Nf8++,
40. ...f5 41. Qxf5++ |
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Jun-24-03
 | | patzer2: Went to chesslab.com for their analysis of Timman's winning move. The following are the possibilities given by computer analyses (long) after 40. Ne6: Mate in 9 Moves: 40. Ne6 Bxb2 41. Qxe4+ f5 42. Nef8+ Qxf8 43. Nxf8+ Kh8 44. Qe8 Rc8 45. Ng6+ Kg7 46. Ne7+ Kh7 47. Qg6+ Kh8 48. Qxh6# (12.63 plus score) 40. Ne6 Bxb2 41. Qxe4+ f5 42. Nef8+ Qxf8 43. Nxf8+ Kh8 44. Qxf5 Rg7 45. Rxg7 Kxg7 46. Ne6+ Kg8 47. Kxb2 (7.67 plus score) 40. Ne6 Rc1+ 41. Kxc1 Bxb2+ 42. Kxb2 Kh8 43. Qd4+ f6 44. Qxe4 Qxd7 (6.83 plus score) 40. Ne6 Bxb2 41. Qxe4+ Kh8 42. Qa8+ Rc8 43. Qxc8+ Kh7 44. Kxb2 fxe6 (3.69 plus score) 40. Ne6 Rc1+ 41. Kxc1 Bxb2+ 42. Kxb2 Qxe6 |
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Jun-24-03
 | | patzer2: <nvidia> Your solution falls short because after 40. Qxe4+ Qxe4+ (you overlooked the fact that it is now white who is in check) 41. Ka2 (or any other king move) and 41...RxNd7 and it is now black who has the won game. If it wern't for the fact the white king was in check after 40. Qxe4+ Qxe4+, your solution would have been OK. Keep working at it though. It is instructive when solving combinations to see if a slightly different arrangement of the pieces will allow a combination to work. In this position, if say the white king were on the a1 square, your solution works perfectly. |
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Jun-24-03
 | | AgentRgent: <djp> nvidia Listed 2 possible 40th moves for black.. Note the comma (and the move #s). <40. Qxe4+ Qxe4 41. Nf8++,
40. ...f5 41. Qxf5++>
If Black played 40...f5 then 41. Qxf5++ is possible. However 40. Qxe4 is Check so the combination will not work. |
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| Jun-25-03 | | djp: Ahhh.... thanks < AgentRegent>. I've deleted my comments to avoid confusion here. |
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