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Jan Timman vs Rafael Vaganian
Montpellier Candidates (1985), Montpellier FRA, rd 9, Oct-23
French Defense: Winawer. Retreat Variation Armenian Line (C18)  ·  1-0
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Apr-13-11  outplayer: 22...exf5 23.Qxc6+ Kf7 24.Be3! and white is superior.
Apr-13-11  Mozart72: Timman's 62.5% win against Vaganian's 37.5% win is by far superior. The score 1-0 is correct.
Jul-14-16
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  zydeco: Ok. I was staring at the board for a long time, but I think I finally see how white wins after 20....exf5:

21.Qh7+ Kf8 (forced) 22.Qh6+ and then

i. 22....Ke8 23.Qe6+
ii. 22...Ke7 23.Qf6+ Kd7 24.Qf7+ (or 23....Ke8 24.Qe6+) iii. 22....Kf7 23.Qf6+ Ke8 24.Qe6+
iv. 22....Rg7 23.Qf6+ Kg8 24.Qe6+ or 23....Rf7 24.Qh8+

And in all cases white recovers his rook with two extra pawns.

I thought there might be mate with 22.Qxf5+ Kg7 23.Qf6+ Kh7 24.f5 but after 24....Rxg2 black gets away.

TImman had to see at least most of that before playing 18.Rxf7!

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