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| arnaud1959: <Andoy:> You're right. Young players would beleive that he was a loser which is not true. |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| Kwesi: this took me waay too long to get :/ |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| Tacticstudent: A nice Puzzle. |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| zb2cr: Found this one quickly. My thinking process pretty well paralleled that of <dzechiel> and <zooter>. |
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Dec-11-07
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| johnlspouge: 34. Re8 Rxe8 35. Qd6 Re7 36. Qd8 Rd8 37. Qxd8#
Very pretty. Surprisingly, I felt more comfortable with today's solution than yesterday's. A fast mate always feels right early in the week! WhiteShark, by the way, thanks for the Louis Armstrong clip on your bio. One of my friends is a fan, and he loved it. I will put up a bio by the end of the week (although it feels a little like writing my own obit). |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| spacecube: After 34. Re8 there is forced mate
34... Rxe8 (Only move). 35. Qd6+ Re7 36. Qd8+ Re8 37. Nd7+ Kg8 38. Qxe8 mate. Note that 34. Qxg7+ would be an haronious move, after 34... Kxg7! |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| MaxxLange: <spacecube> 37. Qxe8# is the move. Your line is not mate: 37. Nd7+?? Kg8 38. Qxe8+ Kh7 |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| Sydro: I feel a little good for seeing the solution to the checkmate. |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| TheEnterprise: I got it! 2/2 this week. : ) |
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Dec-11-07
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| YouRang: Got it pretty quick.
It seemed pretty evident that:
1. The action was at e8
2. We want to bring our queen in at d6.
3. Our rook is blocking our queen.
With the rook blocking the queen, a clearance sac was called for: 34. Re8! achieves our objective by (1) vacating e5 to open the queen's path to d6 and (2) forcing 34...Rxe8 which causes the black rook to abandon its defense of the d-file. This permits the 35. Qd6+ and mate in 2 (35...Re7 36. Qd8+ Re8 37. Qxe8#). Beautiful how the knight sits there unguarded on f6 and makes the attack at e8 possible while also blocking off the king's escape at g8. |
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Dec-11-07
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| kevin86: White has a forced mate in four moves:
34  e8+ xe8 35  d6+ e7 36 d8+ e8 37 xe8#. It is 100% forced and the quickest way to win. "Why be cute when you can be effective and win?"-Bill Belichick (not really,but certainly he COULD say it) |
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Dec-11-07
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| alphee: This one looked easy: 34. e8+ xe8 35. d6+ e7 36. d8+ e8 37. xe8#
Too easy, so I tried something with 34.  h7+  g8 35. f6+ .... but it didn't bring anything more. |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| twin phoenix: Found R-e8 and laughed out loud because it was so unexpected. really it was a quite pretty move that must have come as an awful shock to GM Timman. i play moves which are just as surprising to my opponents but alas they are almost always bad!! |
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Dec-11-07
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| alphee: As part of the 33.... h8 exercise 35.... f5 seems to leave black alive, as well as 35. ... e6 36. b8 d1 37. f6+ d8 38.xd8+ xd8 but there might be other options. |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| DukeAlba: Ah, yes.... yet another puzzle in which Jan Timman is the victim. Leave Timman Alone! |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| DukeAlba: <alphee> I like your avatar. I'm a huge fan of Salvador Dali. I went to the Dali museum in St. Petersburg in Tampa this summer and it was very, very, interesting. |
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Dec-11-07
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| patzer2: For today's puzzle solution, it's mate-in-four after 34. Re8+! |
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Dec-11-07
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| TheaN: 2/2
A rare moment in which I've seen the solution in <1 second, because I immediately looked at and verified the possibility of a mating technique at e8 without spotting the Queen at all: the mate itself was easy followup with. 34.Re8+ Kxe8 35.Qd6+ Re7 36.Qd8+ Re8 37.Qxe8#.
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Dec-11-07
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| whiteshark: Yes, it (34.Re8+ Kxe8 35.Qd6+ Re7 36.Qd8+ Re8 37.Qxe8#) was easy to spot as f8 is immobile (stalemate) and g3 will approach with check on d6... |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| Mendrys: <DuaneTiemann: Why would black leave the c pawn hanging at 10? Why wouldn't white just take it?> After 10. Qxc7 he leaves his own pawn hanging on d4. 10....Qxd4 and now black has the initiative. |
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Dec-11-07
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| GannonKnight: Got it ... That was easy. |
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Dec-11-07
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| The Sicilian Dragon: ZZZZZZZZZ, yawn, what problem? |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| MaxxLange: everyone starts somewhere...seeing a mate in 4 is a big deal for a beginning player |
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| Dec-11-07 |
| MaxxLange: Timman, of course, was no beginner....hard to believe he lost this way |
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| Dec-12-07 |
| goldfarbdj: <Mendrys: <DuaneTiemann: Why would black leave the c pawn hanging at 10? Why wouldn't white just take it?>
After 10. Qxc7 he leaves his own pawn hanging on d4. 10....Qxd4 and now black has the initiative.> I think DuaneTiemann is asking about 10. ...  f5, which seems to allow 11. xc7. The answer is this: Neglecting development to grab a pawn during the opening rarely turns out well. White wastes a tempo, and will have to waste more time retreating the queen; black will use this time to build up his position and get an attack that will more than compensate for the pawn. Here's one possible line: 11. xc7 c6 12. f4 (xb7 ab8 is worse) fe8 13. f3 e4 14. g3 xd4 when black has regained the pawn and has a big advantage; white is behind in development and has an unsafe king. |
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