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| somitra: It is surprising that this game has not been selected as a GOTD till now. |
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Jan-09-08
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| dx9293: <somitra> Agreed! This game should definitely be a Game of The Day. Topalov has a habit of losing immortal games: this one to Bareev, his loss to Karpov in this same Linares 1994 (two immortal losses in one tournament!!), and the loss to Kasparov in Wijk 1999. Am I missing any others? |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| Forcanys: GOTD at last. |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| hzwk6j: Hey, I'm only a hobby player with around 1600-1800 ELO, but 18. Qxa8 seems very poor move even for me. A fair player could resign at latest after 18. ... Qe4+ |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| kackhander: even by cg.com standards this pun just doesn't work. |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| slomarko: <Topalov has a habit of losing immortal games: this one to Bareev, his loss to Karpov in this same Linares 1994 (two immortal losses in one tournament!!), and the loss to Kasparov in Wijk 1999. Am I missing any others?>
didn't Shirov play Bh3!! against him? |
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Apr-25-08
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| hedgeh0g: After 13. gxf4 Bh4+ 14. Kf1, what does Black do to compensate the knight? |
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Apr-25-08
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| xenophon: can you bareev this game |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| fictionist: One of my faves! |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| PaulLovric: Lest we forget! |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| Riverbeast: Why do so many players have such brilliancies against Topalov? "Kasparov's Immortal", "Karpov's immortal" (all games of the day), and now this...All had Topalov on the receiving end. Maybe Topalov's aggressive tactical style invites brilliancies on the part of his opponent also...Or maybe it's just coincidence, who knows |
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Apr-25-08
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| kevin86: I think chessgames.com got the expressions mixed up-It's "Believe it!" or "grin and bear it". How about "unBAREEVable!"
The game was a bit different-I had never seen a two-rook sac ignited by an unsupported pin before. It is a great trigger to the ending. |
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Apr-25-08
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| A.G. Argent: Bereave: To mourn a loss. [?] |
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Apr-25-08
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| tpstar: It's a reference to streaking ("Grin and bare it") which makes sense because Topalov is such a streaky player. http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/... |
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Apr-25-08
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| positionalgenius: great game here |
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Apr-25-08
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| PinnedPiece: Bareev make Topalov pay for useless move 13 a3. |
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Apr-25-08
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| SuperPatzer77: Black plays 22...Qe3+! - White's two tries are 1) 23. Kxd5 Be6# (Criss-crossing mate) and 2) 23. Kb5 Qb6+, 24. Kc4 (24. Ka4 Bd7#) Ne3#. 0-1 Veselin Topalov's reply to 22...Qe3+! is 23. Kc4 Nb6+! and Veselin Topalov (White) resigns. 0-1. It should be the one of Evgeny Bareev's greatest games. SuperPatzer77 |
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| Apr-25-08 |
| actionhero56: so why did he resign?
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Apr-25-08
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| SuperPatzer77: <actionhero56: so why did he resign?> -- It is because checkmate is inevitable. 24. Kb3 Qe6+ 25. Kb4 (25. c4 Qxc4#) Qc4+, 26. Ka5 Qc5#/Qa4#. 0-1 24. Kb5 Qd3+, 25. Ka5 (25. Kc5 Qc4# <or> 26 c4 Qxc4+, 27. Ka5 Qc5#/Qa4#) Qd5+, 26. Kb4 Qc4+, 27. Ka5 Qc5#/Qa4#. 0-1 <actionhero56> -- Just analyze it so, you can see why he resigned. Why he resigned was because it led to inevitable checkmate by the Black Queen with the two minor pieces (Black Knight and Black Bishop) that were in the perfect position for the mating net. |
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Apr-25-08
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| SuperPatzer77: <actionhero56> - Sorry, I forgot to mention this analysis to you - What if 24. Kb4? 24. Kb4 Qe4+, 25. Ka5 Qa4# (25. Kb3 Qc4# or 25. c4 Qxc4+, 26. Ka5 Qc5#/Qa4# or 25. Kb5 Qc4+ 26. Ka5 Qc5#/Qa4#) 0-1 |
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Apr-25-08
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| dx9293: <SuperPatzer77> In an interview (I can't remember the source), Bareev said that this was his best game. |
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Apr-29-08
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| SuperPatzer77: <hzwk6j: Hey, I'm only a hobby player with around 1600-1800 ELO, but 18. Qxa8 seems very poor move even for me. A fair player could resign at latest after 18. ... Qe4+> <hzwk6j> You're absolutely right about that. Topalov could have resigned after 18...Qe4+!. White is too greedy with 18. Qxa8. Black's decisive move is 18...Qe4+!. See my analysis of the variations of 18...Qe4+! below: 1) 19. Kf1 Bh3+!, 20. Kf2 (20. Nxh3 Qe2+, 21. Kg1 Qg2#) Nd3# 2) 19. Kd2 Qc2+, 20. Ke3 (20. Ke1 Nd3+, 21. Kf1 Qf2#) Qd3+, 22. Kf2 (22. Kxf4 Qe4#) Qd2+, 23. Kf3 (23. Kf1 Bh3+!, 24. Nxh3 Qe2+, 25. Kg1 Qg2#) Qg2+! 24. Ke3 (24. Kxf4 Qe4#) Nd5+! transposes to Black's 20th move of this actual game - 20...Nd5+!. 3) 19. Kf2 Qg2+, 20. Ke1 (instead of 20. Ke3 in this actual game) Nd3+, 21. Kd1 Bg4+, 22. Ne2 (22. Nf3 Bxf3#) Qxe2#. SuperPatzer77
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| Dec-29-08 |
| YJGYJ: For me move 13 by Bareev is what separates me from the world of the grand master. i see that potentially sacrificing his knight opens up the king side to some possibilities, but beyond that I probably would never have risked it. Cheers to Bareev's vision! and to Topalov for move 16 putting his Queen on the same file as his king with this guy! |
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Dec-29-08
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| sallom89: UnBareevable game! |
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| Jan-14-09 |
| WhiteRook48: I don't Bareev that Topalov lost with such amazing tactics! |
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