|Sep-05-08|| ||CapablancaFan: Black has been bound, tied and wrapped in a bow. Zugzwang.|
|Sep-05-08|| ||MindCtrol9: <Carlos Torre was a great player.He die too soon.There is a game he played against Enmanuel Lasker which is an excellent example of who he was>|
|Sep-05-08|| ||ughaibu: Did you ever see a guy play so unashamedly for a draw?|
|Sep-05-08|| ||ericduker: Torre didn't die young, he suffered from mental problems that ended his chess career early.|
|Sep-05-08|| ||Once: Pins are fascinating. They range from totally ineffectual to utterly devestating.|
Here Torres wins with nothing more than a pin on the e8 knight. But this pin completely paralyses black - none of his pieces can move.
The knight can't move, because this is an absolute pin against the king.
The king can't move, because the f7 is denied to him, and any other move leaves the knight only being protected by the queen. Attacked twice defended once = dead.
Ditto the queen can't move, because she too has to stay and guard the knight.
Black only has meaningless pawn moves and then he must move king or queen, and so be a knight down.
Funny how both the black king and queen need f7, but the knight on d6 denies it to them both.
|Sep-05-08|| ||Jim Bartle: This could be the "mortal zugzwang game."|
|Sep-05-08|| ||Alphastar: <ughaibu: Did you ever see a guy play so unashamedly for a draw?> Yeah I think I did, but this is understandable also if you're a nobody and your opponent is a great player who beat Lasker the year before.|
|Sep-05-08|| ||eaglewing: Wouldn't have been 40. Nd6+ Nxd6 a defense with some fighting chance for a draw? I see one pawn disadvantage in a Queen's ending:|
40. Nd6+ Nxd6 41. ed Qd8 42. Qc7 Ke8 43. Qxh7 Qxd6 44. Qxg6+ Kd7 and even the one-pawn advantage is under threat due Qd1+(or #) and Qxc2. In case Qh5 protects d1, the answer could be Qe5, threatening Qe1 and Qxb2.
Do I overlook something at 40. Nd6+ Nxd6?
|Sep-05-08|| ||JohnBoy: <eagle> - without engine, I am pretty sure that the 40. Nd6+ Nxd6 41. ed Qd8 42. Qc7 Ke8 43. Qxh7 Qxd6 44. Qxg6+ Kd7 line can be followed up with 45.h4 and the h pawn is impossible to stop.|
If you don't like that, then 40. Nd6+ Nxd6 41. ed Qd8 42. f4 eliminates the potential mate and allows white to put his king deep on the q-side before forcing the trade of queens.
|Sep-05-08|| ||newzild: Ouch! What a wicked zugzwang!
Is this the same Munoz that caned Fischer as black in a Sicilian Dragon?
|Sep-05-08|| ||kevin86: Another great Zugzwang game! I saw that black was doomed when the knight was pinned. The king has no moves and the queen is confined to defend the knight. All white needed to do was to exhaust black's pawn moves.|
|Sep-05-08|| ||vikinx: If you think this game is cool, try this one:Bagirov vs K Grigorian, 1976|
|Sep-05-08|| ||DarthStapler: Torre's play is so simple, yet powerful, fluid, and effective. I aspire to play like this.|
|Sep-07-08|| ||eaglewing: <JohnBoy>: I had the feeling with 45. h4, too. However, now I've checked with my old Fritz 7, I have to say it is not clear, it seems drawish.|
Main line with idea h4:
40. Nd6+ Nxd6 41. ed Qd8 42. Qc7 Ke8 43. Qxh7 Qxd6 44. Qxg6+ Ke7 (modified vs my previer post, do not give up the e-file) 45. Qg7 Ke8 46. h4 Qd1+ 47. Kh2 Qxc2 48. f3 Qa4 49. Kh3 Qd4 50. Qg8+ Kd7 51. Qf7+ Kd6 52. h5 Qxb2 53. h6 Qc1 54. Qg7 Qh1+ 55. Kg3 Qe1+ 56. Kf4 Qd2+ and the King cannot flee forward.
Main line with idea f4:
40. Nd6+ Nxd6 41. ed Qd8 42. f4 h6 (even g5 may be fine) 43. g3 g5 44. Kg2 gf 45. gf Qh4 46. Qd7+ Kf8 47. Qc8+ Kf7 48. Qc7 Kf8 49. h3 Qe1 and escaping the checks while pushing the pawn will not be possible.
|Sep-28-11|| ||SirChrislov: <newzild: Is this the same Munoz that caned Fischer as black in a Sicilian Dragon?>|
No. that player is Ecuadorian Cesar Munoz.
Fischer vs C Munoz, 1960
|Mar-22-12|| ||FRANKHODGES: I wish that more kibitzers would take the "GUESS THE MOVE" Quizes-The Russians do and that is why they are the best players.|