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Rafael Vaganian vs Albin Planinc
"Careful Planinc" (game of the day Dec-26-2008)
Hastings (1974/75), Hastings ENG, rd 5, Jan-02
English Opening: Symmetrical. Anti-Benoni Variation Spielmann Defense (A32)  ·  0-1
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Oct-19-15  awfulhangover: Most difficult Monday puzzle in the history of Monday puzzles.
Oct-19-15  The Kings Domain: Risky play by both sides in this pretty unorthodox game. Nice finishing touch by black.
Oct-19-15  scormus: Nice finish, my aging memory gives me the chance to "remember" having won with such a play, and "forget" having lost.

Maybe a little harder than usual, but I think easy enough if you keep in mind the Monday Q-sac theme ;)

Oct-19-15
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  DarthStapler: First I looked at Qc5+ but saw it was useless after Nc3. Then I looked at Qd1+ (always look at the obvious queen sacrifice on Monday) but soon saw it also led nowhere. Then I saw that Nb3 would be mate if I could deflect then queen, so I figured Qc6+ wins the queen (Nc3 Qxb7)
Oct-19-15  BOSTER: 16.Qe3 is too < wild > to be real.
Oct-19-15
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  gawain: Wow! ...Nb3 would be mate--a gorgeous mate--if only the white Q were elsewhere. So force it with 22...Qc6+ or Qc7+ and Black either mates or wins the queen.

The kibitzing about this one has been very interesting.

Oct-19-15  wooden nickel: <wooden nickel: That stupid looking move 21... Na5 actually wins the game...> oops, I meant 21... Na1!, that would make a good puzzle


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Oct-19-15
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  Dionysius1: Good lord! 2 glasses of wine and I was about to announce that Bc2 is mate. It's not, is it?
Oct-19-15  starry2013: Like <DarthStapler> I looked at Qc5+. That seems more intuitive than putting your queen next to the opponent's queen. It turns out the white knight is a problem.

I saw the black bishop squares, and the knight could check. But didn't see the semi-smothered checkmate as a potential outcome as with the line I played it wasn't possible.

Definitely more difficult I think than many Mondays or Tuesdays.

Oct-19-15  starry2013: Also of course on a Monday or Tuesday it's normally a checkmate not winning the queen.
Oct-19-15
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  Check It Out: This is a bit different from the normal Monday fare. Qc6+ forks the queen and king, but if black takes then Nb3 is a very pretty #.
Oct-19-15  Mating Net: This puzzle required a fine surgical touch, nice one.
Oct-19-15
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  Bubo bubo: Since the ♕b7 has to guard b3 against Nb3#, Black can fork king and queen with 22...Qc6/c7+, winning a whole queen.
Oct-19-15  Moonwalker: Spent way too much time trying to figure out what the difference between 22...Qc6+ and ...Qc7+ is.

Conclusion: No difference. I arbitrarily picked the c7 square. Pattern looked prettier to me!

Oct-19-15  Halldor: Got it after a very long thought. Difficult for Monday, but if it had been for Tuesday some would say it was more a Monday one... - Very beautiful at least.
Oct-19-15  Nullifidian: 22... ♕c6/7+ wins the queen, because if 23. ♕xc6/7 then 23... ♘b3#
Oct-20-15  notyetagm: Vaganian vs A Planinc, 1975

Game Collection: THE UNDERRATED REMOVAL OF THE GUARD -- HEISMAN 22 ... Qd6-c7+! 0-1 attacks b7-queen defender of b3-mating sq

<The logic "a guarded square (b3-mating square) is not really guarded if the guard (White b7-queen) can be taken or attacked (22 ... Qd6-c7+! 0-1)" is not emphasized in beginner's books.>

-- paraphrase of NM Dan Heisman quote

<A square (b3-mating square) that is guarded by a piece (White b7-queen) which is subject to capture or attack (22 ... Qd6-c7+! 0-1) is likely not defended at all.>

-- paraphrase of NM Dan Heisman quote

Oct-20-15
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  scutigera: <Dionysius1> Only if the bishop is also a queen. No church sex scandal jokes, please.
Oct-21-15
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  LucB: <scutigera:>

:D

Dec-06-15  Bruce Graham: 1066 Revived: Vaganian vs A Planinc, 1975
Dec-17-15  Whitehat1963: I wonder if 22...Qb7 came as a shock. You certainly don't see moves like that one every day at such a high level.
Dec-17-15  kereru: Check out the sequence from 48:55 in the German film ""Schwarz und Weiß wie Tage und Nächte" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq...
Jan-19-17  Grbasowski: 22. Qa7?
Mar-27-17  Everett: <kereru: Check out the sequence from 48:55 in the German film ""Schwarz und Weiß wie Tage und Nächte" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq...

Nice find, colors reversed...

Mar-27-17  Everett: White played for simplification almost from the start, surrendered the initiative, and Black had his way...
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