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Mar-06-12
 | | sevenseaman: Rooking around! Its a position where some Black players may not have any qualms about resigning. But the position gives him a win, a quick one at that. Not tough, about Tuesday level. Enjoy.
click for larger viewb t p & w. |
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Mar-06-12
 | | smitha1: <viking78> Lighten up: there are some good chess lessons to be learnt from those videos, especially for amateurs like you and me. I suggest you look at those videos again and ask, "What can I learn from this that will make me a better player?" |
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Mar-06-12
| | smitha1: <Once> Your description of chess on the Xbox was brilliant. There was a thing called Battlechess with castles that jumped on horses and Bishops that threw spells. It was supposed to make chess interesting, but I have not met anyone that started chess that way: the novelty wore off, and they never got into the game. At the end of the day, chess is not about nuking the opponent's pieces. It is about overcoming one's own follies and blindspots whilst seeing through the opponent's bluster and threats in order to reach a chosen goal or objective. Watching a person play chess is a wonderful opportunity to learn his real character with its flaws and strengths. That you will never achieve with Xbox and its ilk. |
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Mar-06-12
 | | sorokahdeen: Pretty masterful attack. It's comparatively rare to see an attack build this way, using rooks and a knight, building on a kingside initiative stemming from a bad bishop and a space advantage. |
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Mar-06-12
 | | morfishine: <36.Rxh6+> Lovely finish! |
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Mar-06-12
 | | Memethecat: First things first, a big thank you to <once> & <RookFile> for yesterdays entertainment. I've got a strong suspicion that RookFile was arguing for the sake of it, & maybe once new it. but very funny all the same. At 1st look the answer seemed like a no brainer, but I was wrong(it does happen), some thought was needed. 36Rxh6+ gxh6 37Rxh6+ Kg7 (37...Rh7 38Qxh7#) 38Qh7+ Kf8 39Rxf6+ Rf7 40Rxf7+ Qxf7 41Qxf7# ***
Only now, when looking at the game, have I noticed the pawn on c2. tut tut tut. ^.^ |
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| Mar-06-12 | | Limpin Kt: About the chess-xbox gen. thing, i agree with <smitha1> that chess reflects the person's temperment- some players want to attack some prefer solid positions- so on. <When playing with computers which i do only occasionally, i always feel it rather boring-inferior than playing with a human opponent>- for computers work out tactics and strategy differently. And rightly <the graphics, guns and bullets and charms- the attraction i think is feeble compared to real beauty of chess with all its depth and complexity.> good day! |
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Mar-06-12
 | | David2009: Vidmar vs Przepiorka, 1906 White 36? It took me some time to see that 36.R(either)xh6+ gxh6 37.Rxh6+ Kg7 38.Qh7+ Kf8 does win because of the sting in the tail 39.Rxf6+! etc. Not
spotting this, I analysed the (losing) alternative 38.Rh7+ Kf8, and then 36.Qxc2 which allows
36...Rxe6 when I am temporarily a Pawn up but my e3 Pawn is about to fall. So I had one last lingering look at Rxh6+ and spotted 39.Rxf6+. Time to
check:
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Here's the puzzle position
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and an interactive link for those who want to explore the 36.Qxc2 variation: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... |
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Mar-06-12
 | | scormus: <36 Rgxh6+ or Rhxh6+ ?> Interesting to reflect on what different players might do. Rhxh6+ looks kind of pleasing to the eye.
Rgxh6+ might appeal to .... a player who has a special penchant for doubling Rs on the <Rookfile>. Sadly some players might have sat there not being able to decide, and lose on time. B could have resigned <Once> he knew the last decision move by W |
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Mar-06-12
| | sevenseaman: <David2009> <So I had one last lingering look at Rxh6+ and spotted 39.Rxf6+>. So <39. Rxf6+> was the key move. I agree; it looks obvious only after you make it. |
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Mar-06-12
| | Memethecat: <7cman> Rh3+ gxh3 Rh1# or Rh3+ Kxh3 Rh1# |
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| Mar-06-12 | | zb2cr: A little more complicated than it looks at first. Your first thought is to sacrifice a Rook on h6. After Black plays the forced 36. ... gxh6, then White's second Rook takes: 37. Rxh6+. At first, you think Black just plays 37. ... Rh7: 38. Qxh7#. But Black can also play 37. ... Kg7; 38. Qh7+, Kf8. Now it looks as though he might survive--but White then plays 39. Rxf6+, Rf7; 40. Rxf7+, Qxf7; 41. Qxf7#. |
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Mar-06-12
 | | Patriot: White is up a pawn.
Black threatens 36...c1=Q+ or 36...Rxe6
The most forcing try is 36.Rxh6+.
36.Rg(h)xh6+ gxh6 37.Rxh6+ Kg7 38.Qh7+ Kf8 39.Rxf6+ Rf7 40.Rxf7+ Qxf7 41.Qxf7# I toyed with other forcing lines before finding the solution above but didn't see anything definitive. For example, 36.Rgxh6+ gxh6 37.Rxh6+ Kg7 38.Qg6+ Kf8 39.Qxf6+ Rf7 but this doesn't seem to do the trick. |
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| Mar-06-12 | | sfm: Przepiorka must have been in time trouble to play 35.-,c2?? The mate after 36.Rxh6+ does not take a second to spot on that level. What's wrong with the simple 35.-,Rxe6 ? |
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| Mar-06-12 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: In this middle-game attacking position, white has all the major pieces mobilized to bludgeon black's weakened castled position. Black has the threats 36... c1=Q+ and 36... Rxe6, but this is of no concern to white, who can force mate-in-6 with 36.R(either)xh6+ gxh6 37.Rxh6+ Kg7 38.Qh7+ Kf8 39.Rxf6+ etc. Another example of an advanced pawn playing a critical role in a decisive attack. |
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| Mar-06-12 | | viking78: <sfm: What's wrong with the simple 35.-,Rxe6 ?>
That looks pretty good for black, hope someone will analyse that. |
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| Mar-06-12 | | Oxspawn: I go swimming in the Oxford University pool. They have graded lanes with the largest one at the edge marked “slow”. As a 60+ lifelong swimmer, I go in that lane but generally get mown down by 20 something fitness fanatic. As I struggle along in their wash I reflect that the word “slow” is not very scientific. This site reminds me of the pool. Only here read “easy” for “slow”.
I am probably the worst player to visit this site (I usually get Monday right, sometimes Tuesday and once, Wednesday) and so I never post. But I am not the worst player in the world. In fact, if I meet someone who wants a game they are usually even worse than me. So I thought you might learn from this demonstration of how a bad chess player thinks. Our brains are made differently from yours.
Seems to me that either white is going to have to take the pawn on c2 (probably what someone like me would play over the board) and settle for slow death or is going to have to win this game by delivering check on each and every move. Let’s assume the latter. Does it matter which rook to start with? Probably, but I don’t see it. So 36 R(h)xh6+ g7xh6
37 Rxh6+
Now if black intervenes the rook, he is dead, so
37… Kg7
Now, I would like my Q to be to right of the rook but I don’t seem to have the tempo for that so
38. Qg6+ Kf8
I can feel this slipping away. Buff nails, whistle happy tune, look confident and play
39. Qxf6+ Rf7
If only there was an elegant mate with the pawn. All I can see is
40. e6xf7 and now c7-c8=Q and even a draw by repetition is beyond me.
41. Kf2 Qxe3++
Time to find something to complain about… “the sun was in my eyes”…”the king looks like the queen in this set”. I’ll go and humiliate myself by seeing what really happened….
…Later Well, I must have looked at Qh7+ but somehow that square seemed off limits to me. <“I would like my queen to be to the right of my rook but I don’t seem to have the tempo for that!”> There was some subliminal warning – keep off the grass that blocked me from seeing it. I especially failed to see how trapped the king was after Kf8. If you cannot even see when you are winning, what hope is there? Look out, here comes another swimmer….. |
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Mar-06-12
 | | agb2002: White is one pawn up.
Black threatens 36... c1=Q+ and ... Rxd6.
The black castle is so defenseless that White can force mate in six: 36.Rgxh6+ gxh6 37.Rxh6+ Kg7 38.Qh7+ Kf8 39.Rxf6+ Rf7 (39... Qf7 40.Rxf7+ and mate next) 40.Rxf7+, etc. |
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Mar-06-12
 | | waustad: <oxspawn>Welcome here. As a 60+ who spent the Summer at Trinity College in 1970, I look foreward to reading more posts from you. |
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| Mar-06-12 | | Lykos: The main variant is clear.
36.Rhxh6+ gxh6
Rxh6+ Kg7
Qh7+ Kf8
Rxf6+
Most charming now is
...Qf7
Rxf7+ Ke8
Rxe7+ Kd8
Rd7+ Kc8
Qxc2+ Bingo!
Not deep, but refreshing |
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Mar-06-12
 | | whiteshark: "To a chess master, there is no such thing as an "obvious" move. Experience has shown repeatedly that wins or draws are thrown away by thoughtless play. Careful planning is the essence of chess strategy. Every move must be scrutinized with care. Each must be analyzed in the light of the plan under consideration. Nowhere is waste of time more severely punished than in chess." ~Samuel Reshevsky |
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Mar-06-12
| | En prise: I must admit , ONCE, I like your new chess video concept better than Fischer Random chess. |
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| Mar-06-12 | | desiobu: Got hung up on 38. Qg6+ for a bit but eventually found Qh7+. |
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Mar-06-12
 | | gawain: Had to look twice to be sure that there was a win after 36 Rxh6+. Persuaded myself that 39 Rxf6+ really does win in the game line. I never even noticed black's pawn poised on c2! |
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| Mar-06-12 | | fokers13: <sevenseaman> Rh3+! mates after either gxh3 or Kxh3 Rh1# |
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