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|Jul-04-06|| ||dbquintillion: <PaulLovric> nah, probably just a coincidence.|
|Jul-04-06|| ||chessmoron: <PaulLovric> That means yes in sarcastic language. :-)|
|Jul-04-06|| ||think: I can see the mate after Kd8,
and 41. ... Be6 f7 is pretty,
but what is the white win after Kc6?
|Jul-04-06|| ||al wazir: The ♘ sacrifice 31. Ng6+ initiates a 15-move combination that culminates after 41. Bf5+ with 41...Kc6 (41...Kd8 42. Rd1+) 42. Rxe8 Bxe8 43. fxg7 Bf7 44. Bh7.|
I don't think I would have seen that if I had been white.
|Jul-04-06|| ||RandomVisitor: White missed the following wins:
He finally found 31.Ng6+.
|Jul-04-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: Many non-Americans don't know about Uncle Sam, so here's a short description:|
<Uncle Sam is a national personification of the United States dating from the War of 1812. Common folklore holds that his origins trace back to soldiers stationed in upstate New York, who would receive barrels of meat stamped with the initials U.S. The soldiers jokingly referred to it as the initials of the meat supplier, Uncle Samuel Wilson, of Troy, New York.>
But I'm sure most of the non-Americans will recognize this picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...
|Jul-04-06|| ||dakgootje: <But I'm sure most of the non-Americans will recognize this picture> Was the first thing i thought about when seeing the pun. Second thing i did was looking whether anyone had linked the picture already =P|
|Jul-04-06|| ||fxenderby: what's the point in playing this gambit! i really don't know the first thing about it, but it only seems dumb, what with black being all the time behind in development..|
|Jul-04-06|| ||offramp: I think there is an awful lot still to be learned from the games of the great Samuel Reshevsky. At chess he was like an idiot-savant WITHOUT the idiot part. He was the George Bidder of chess. Like Bidder, I imagine that the truth just appeared in his head without him really being able to elucidate why.|
|Jul-04-06|| ||Phony Benoni: The final combination is impressive, but even more instructive is the positional play leading up to it.|
|Jul-04-06|| ||kevin86: Nice attack by Sammy-The ending is elementary-with white up two passed pawns on the kingside.|
|Jul-04-06|| ||ronpaz: <think> 42.R:e8 B:e8 43.f:g7 Bf7 44.Bh7 with easy wining for white.|
|Jul-04-06|| ||nuwanda: <ronpaz> and <think>: or even funnier 44.h4 e.g. 44...Kd5 45.h5 Ke5 46.h6 Kf6 47.g4 with g5 to follow|
|Jul-04-06|| ||nuwanda: <al wazir> I agree with you that i surely wouldn't have seen the whole combination, but circumstances make it easy to play 32.Rxh7 (if the idea even had come to my mind):|
first of all at the first stopping point after 34.fxg6, Rf7 is the only move, somewhat comforting, if i really don't see anything decisive i get my material back.
Now at this point 35.Ba2 looks at first sight very promising, but i don't see anything to break blacks defense after Be6, but i might have overseen something, its a option.
The second move which looks good is the quiet 35.e5, the real point of the combination, opening the diagonal b1-h7 for the bishop und threatening to open the e-file after driving the king to e7. Still comforting, the rook cannot run away, because then he would block flight fields for the king, so the option of simply taking my material back remains.
After 35...Be6, besides the game continuation, 36.gxf7 could be a strong move. If 36...Bxf7 then 37.Qh7 Kf8 38.Qh8 if 38...Bg8 39.Ba2 or 38...Ke7 39.exf6, or 36.Qxf7 37.Bg6 with all lines open to the weak black king
So i think, many options, little risk, much fun ahead...
|Jul-04-06|| ||belgradegambit: I have mentioned before that I knew Herb Seidman because I was friends with his son when I was a kid in Brooklyn in the 60s. He was a very nice guy. Spent his life working for the American Cancer Society. He was a many time New York State champion. My mom is still friends with his wife.
He seems to be one of those players who always has his losses published (on the wrong side of someone elses brilliancy). Here's a nice game where he crushes Reshevsky by sacking 2 minor pieces Seidman vs Reshevsky, 1959|
|Jul-04-06|| ||RookFile: <random visitor: White missed the following wins: |
He finally found 31.Ng6+.>
Hard to believe, but randomvisitor appears to be completely right. Reshevsky did miss some crushing attacks along the rookfile.
The variations are more or less repetitive, it is sufficient to just look at the first one:
1) 26. Nxf8 Rxf8 (...Qxf8 27. Ng6+) 27. Ng6+!! Nxg6 28. Rxh7+! Kxh7 (28... Kg8 29. Qh5) 29. Qh5+ Kg8 30. fxg6 winning the queen.
|Dec-03-07|| ||Ulhumbrus: On 26 Nxf8 Rxf8 27 Ng6+ Nxg6 28 Rxh7+ Kxh7 29 Qh5+ Kg8 30 fxg6 Black has 30...Qe6 and then on 31 Qh7+ Kf8 32 Qh8 is not mate as Black has 32...Qg8.|
Reshevsky annotates this game in his book "How chess gamea are won", a book which I recommend.
According to Reshevsky, the purpose of 26 b4 is to enable White's KB to come to b3 so as to "bolster the attack"(Reshevsky).
|Dec-03-07|| ||RookFile: There's something wrong, Ulhumbrus, on the 26th move, you have ...Rxf8 and then, without moving this rook, you have 31...Kf8 for black.|
|Dec-04-07|| ||Ulhumbrus: <RookFile: There's something wrong, Ulhumbrus, on the 26th move, you have ...Rxf8 and then, without moving this rook, you have 31...Kf8 for black.> You are right. Black can't play ...Kf8 with the R on f8. How about this: 26 Nxf8 Qxf8 27 Ng6+ Nxg6 28 Rxh7+ Kg8 29 Qh5 Re5 pinning the f5 pawn. Then on 30 Qh3 Bd7 pins it again. On 26 Nxf8 Qxf8 27 Ng6+ Nxg6 28 Rxh7+ Kg8 29 Qh5 Re5 30 Qxg6 Qf7 once again hinders the attack.|
|Dec-04-07|| ||RookFile: You can change the order of moves, though, and it appears that white wins. That is, 26. Nxf8 Qxf8 27. Ng6+ Nxg6 27. Rxh7+ Kg8 and now 28. fxg6.|
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The threat is 29. Rh8+ and Qh5+. So 28.... Re5 is the only move on the board, but then 29. Qg4 sets up the same threat with Qh3. So: 29. Qg4 Qe8 30. Qh3 Kf8 31. Rh8+ - white wins the queen.
|Dec-04-07|| ||Ulhumbrus: <RookFile> How about this exchange sacrifice : 26 Nxf8 Rxf8 27 Ng6+ Kg8! 28 Nxf8 Rxf8 and if Tarrasch is right, Black's N is scarcely weaker than a Rook. In the game Black can't do that because Reshevsky has prepared to play his KB to the a2-g8 diagonal after 26 b4. In the actual game after 31 Nf4-g6+, 31..Kg8 invites 32 Ba2+ Nf7 33 Rxh7! Kxh7 34 Bxf7 Rxf7 35 Qh5+ Kg8 36 Qh8 mate.|
This suggests that Reshevsky did not in fact miss the sacrifice Ng6+ and that the purpose of b4 and subsequent moves which prepare to get White's KB to the a2-g8 diagonal is to prevent Black from offering the exchange by ...Kg8 in reply to the check Ng6+. Thus 25 b4 is a preparation for the sacrifice Ng6+.
Reshevsky does in fact play Ng6+ after first making it possible to play his KB to the a2-g8 diagonal.
|Dec-04-07|| ||RookFile: Well, white doesn't to take the rook. 26. Nxf8 Rxf8 27. Ng6+ Kg8 28. Rxh7 Nxg6 29. Qh5 Be8 30. Re3 and black is not long for this world.|
|Dec-05-07|| ||Ulhumbrus: <RookFile> From the variations I have looked at so far, White appears to win. White's KB is not entirely out of play, because it defends White's centre. In fact White's positional advantage seems great enough to forecast a win from an immediate combination.|
|Mar-25-12|| ||Ulhumbrus: Reshevsky's comment on the move 25 Nde6 is <I now felt that I was beginning to make substantial progress. Now being in a position to get rid of Black's knight at his f8, I had enhanced my attacking chances for Black's knight was a strong defensive weapon.> This remark suggests that Reshevsky considers Black's knight on f8 at least as valuable as Reshevsky's knight on e6.|
|May-09-12|| ||Ulhumbrus: If after 25 Nde6 Reshevsky considers Black's knight on f8 to be at least as valuable as a white knight on e6, this suggests 26...Nd7 so that in the event of 27 Nxf8 Black can replace the knight on f8 by the recapture 27...Nxf8. However then 27 b5 traps Black's QB.|
Even if Black can arrange the move ..Ne5-d7 somehow by saving time earlier, White may still win by the plan of playing b4, followed by the emplacement of White's king's bishop on the a2-g8 diagonal with the check Ng6+
White's attack appears to be a sound attack based upon positional advantage, an attack which will probably win against any defence.
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