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| Apr-02-08 | | zb2cr: Hi <MostlyAverageJoe>, Thanks for your careful exposition.
Both of us were correct; I was only considering the position after the move 79. c8=(anything but a Knight), Nd6+ and Black capturing. In that position, as I had stated, White can't get Black out of the corner. However, as you demonstrate, I had blinkers on and did not consider the possibility of the King move instead of the Pawn push. I wonder if White was short of time and that's why he delivered the check? Obviously unknowable. Again, thanks for contributing to my education. |
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Apr-02-08
 | | patzer2: For the Tuesday, April 1, 2008 puzzle solution, White plays 57. g8(N)! for a winning endgame via under promotion to a Knight. |
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Jul-11-08
 | | 4tmac: These guys played an accurate endgame! (MostlyAverageJoe points this out) Even moves such as blacks 59 set a trap as it allowed white to "play anything" on his 61. N-f6 an "only move". Yes, white got "cute" at the very end and black played a few moves that were tablebase lose in 30 instead of lose in 31 but its unclear whether even these were lass than "best moves" |
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| Jan-04-09 | | WhiteRook48: if promoted to Q it would make a difference |
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| Feb-15-09 | | WhiteRook48: obviously, but lose in 30 and lose in 31, you're going to lose anyway so why not resign in 1 |
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| Feb-23-09 | | WhiteRook48: two underpromotions?! |
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Nov-25-09
 | | hedgeh0g: A double underpromotion! Pretty amazing stuff. |
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Sep-15-11
| | hedgeh0g: I can't believe this hasn't been chosen as GOTD yet. The comedic value alone should be enough to warrant selection. |
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Sep-15-11
 | | perfidious: This is a new one on me-two underpromotions in a practical game (not counting that crazy Rybka-Nakamura affair). It should be called 'Ride My Horsies' or some such thing. |
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Sep-15-11
 | | Shams: <It should be called 'Ride My Horsies' or some such thing.> It really shouldn't. |
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Sep-15-11
| | perfidious: <Shams> That bad? Really? |
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Sep-16-11
| | Shams: <perfidious> I mean, you don't see my submissions being used... Can you find me a game where Black underpromotes to a rook, then is defeated by a white knight? We could call it: "And I rooked, and I beheld a pale horse..." |
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Sep-16-11
| | perfidious: <Shams> I'm confused, unless you already submitted it, in which case I apologise for unwittingly plagiarising your brilliant idea. |
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Sep-16-11
| | Shams: <perfidious> No no, I submitted nothing of the kind; all I meant was that my judgment hardly matters since nobody likes the puns I produce. Well, except for the Japanese. They are fans. |
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Sep-18-11
| | perfidious: <Shams> Sounds about right-I've often gotten groans when inadvertently coming up with one. |
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Apr-11-12
 | | FSR: I tried submitting "Knights in White Satin" as a pun for this game, but was chagrined to learn that someone had beaten me to it. |
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Jul-03-12
 | | holland oats: Hmm...Shams is big in Japan, his avatar can be considered a mule variation--is he Tom Waits?! |
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Jul-03-12
 | | sofouuk: so easy to go wrong in knight endings. after 35 d5!?
click for larger view... cxd5! 36 Kxd5 Nb6+
click for larger viewand rybka says -1.22. difficult to say why black chose 35 ... c5 instead - probably thought white would find himself in zugzwang later? and after 39 f6?
click for larger view... Nxa4 should be winning again but, like i say, its not so easy to visualise all the defensive knight moves. 41 ... Nxf6! was still =, but after Kxf6 it's black who finds himself without good moves |
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| Jul-03-12 | | vinidivici: wow two promotions all to knights... what a unique game good GOTD |
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| Jul-03-12 | | piltdown man: Nice game! |
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| Jul-03-12 | | TheTamale: Fun stuff! I don't like Black's game by move 37 or so... I would never win with a knight vs. 3 pawns on a pared-down board. |
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Jul-03-12
 | | kevin86: A very very rare caes where white promotes TWICE to a knight. The first time is to avoid a fork,the second to avoid stalemate. |
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| Jul-03-12 | | goodevans: <kevin86: ... the second to avoid stalemate.> Not sure what you mean by that. I see no stalemate. Both underpromotions were to avoid forks. The first was practically forced (either that or lose the pawn) but the second wasn't. I have to admit that I'd have played the more prosaic <79.Kc6> and would have missed completely the more elegant <79.c8=N+>. |
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| Jul-03-12 | | Howard: Anyone who would care to see another well-played (and rather well-known)
knight-and-pawn endgame might want to take a peek at one between Korchnoi and Spassky in 1966. It's actually rather well-known. The late Edmar Mednis analyzed it in his endgame column in "Chess Life" back in 1978. Very intriguing endgame ! |
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Jul-05-12
| | kevin86: I misspoke about the stalemate,actually in the second case,as in the first.white had to "knight" to avoid the fork,which would have captured the queen. |
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sac: 13.Bxe6