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| Feb-15-10 | | chillowack: <shreyaslathi: can any1 tell me t weight of sacrifice move 12 Rxh2> I can, yes. It weighs approximately .001425 grams.
That's the atomic weight of yourquestionmakesnosensium. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | RandomVisitor: After 14.Nf3:
1: M Bely - Levente Lengyel, Hastings 6 1963
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 3 : <19-ply> 1. (0.26): 14...bxc3 15.Nxc3 Bxf3 16.gxf3 Qe8 17.a5 Rb8 18.Qa4+ Kd8 19.Ne2 c5 20.Qc2 Qg6+ 21.Kh1 Qf7 22.Ra3 Nd7 23.Qa4 Rb5 24.Rg1 Rf8 2. (0.28): 14...Nxe4 15.cxb4 Qf8 16.d3 Bxf3 17.dxe4 Bxe4 18.Nd2 Bg6 19.Nc4 Qf5 20.Be3 Bf6 21.Rac1 Rhc8 22.Bd2 Rab8 23.Na5 3. (0.42): 14...Bxf3 15.gxf3 Qg8 16.Qd1 g5 17.cxb4 Qe6 18.Kh1 Rhb8 19.d4 Rxb4 20.d5 Qh3 21.Rg1 g4 22.Rg3 Qh4 |
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| Feb-15-10 | | RandomVisitor: FWIW, chesslab.com reports that the position after 11...Kd7 has happened 3 times: in a game in 1958, in this game (1963) and in a game in 1976. All 3 times black won and the games were identical up to 17...Qh8+. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | Figs: Great game, I would never have seen 15...Rxh2! |
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| Feb-15-10 | | sfm: <chillowack: I can, yes. It weighs approximately .001425 grams. That's the atomic weight of yourquestionmakesnosensium.> rotfl! Now, someone please write a serious reply on "can any1 tell me t abt t j-stification for sfice mve 12 Rxh2". It is actually wonderful move. Black has nothing ready for attack. Problem is, that White has even less ready for defense. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | Sem: <chillowack> Such gratuitious rudeness to shreyaslathi. Your profile says you're no one to be trifled with. From your comfortable anonimity that's a hell of a statement. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | WhiteRook48: does 23 Qxh1 repair some damage |
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| Feb-15-10 | | johnlspouge: < <Sem> wrote: <chillowack> Such gratuitious rudeness to shreyaslathi. Your profile says you're no one to be trifled with. > I am with you, brother. Many online personae are "no one", much less "no one to be trifled with". < <sfm> wrote: [snip] rotfl! Now, someone please write a serious reply on "can any1 tell me t abt t j-stification for sfice mve 12 Rxh2". > Toga evaluates it as the best move. With humans able to improve on the complete computer variation: [ply 20/94 value (to White) -1.15 ]
15...<Rxh2> 16.Rxf6 gxf6 17.Kxh2 Qh8+ 18.Kg1 Qh4 19.Qc4 Rh8 20.Qf1 Qh2+ 21.Kf2 Qf4+ 22.Ke2 Qxf1+ 23.Kxf1 Rh1+ 24.Ke2 Rxc1 25.cxb4 d5 26.b5 axb5 27.axb5 dxe4 28.b6 cxb6 29.Ra7+ Ke6 30.Nc3 Rc2 31.b3 Rb2 32.Nxe4 Rxb3 |
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| Feb-15-10 | | hedgeh0g: <<chillowack> Such gratuitious rudeness to shreyaslathi. Your profile says you're no one to be trifled with. From your comfortable anonimity that's a hell of a statement.> Well, I thought it was funny. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | hedgeh0g: Although I feel I should point out that atomic weight isn't measured in grams. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | sfm: <Sem: [chillowack] Such gratuitious rudeness to shreyaslathi...> OK, but there's rudeness and inspired rudeness. This was of the second kind, and I can laugh when it's directed towards myself too (which BTW never happens as my general perfection leaves no target for such).
Your question, Shreyaslathi - and style too - is indeed enjoyable, and I am sure you are large enough to laugh along. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | hstevens129: The position after 19.Qd1 is very interesting. White's four remaining pieces are completely undeveloped, 19 moves into the game. Another reminder of the importance of early development. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | RandomVisitor: A final look at the suggested improvement 14.Nf3 - it may not be much but it's better than losing. 1: M Bely - Levente Lengyel, Hastings 6 1963
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 3 : <21-ply> <1. (0.24): 14...bxc3> 15.Nxc3 Bxf3 16.gxf3 Qe8 17.a5 Rb8 18.Qa4+ Kd8 19.Ne2 c5 20.Qd1 Qf7 21.Ra3 Nh5 22.Kh1 Rf8 23.Rg1 g5 24.Qc2 Nf4 2. (0.25): 14...Nxe4 15.cxb4 Qf8 16.d3 Bxf3 17.dxe4 Bxe4 18.Nd2 Bf5 19.Rd1 Qf6 20.Nc4 Be6 21.Qc2 Rhf8 22.Na5 Ke8 23.Ra3 Rc8 24.Rf3 3. (0.37): 14...Bxf3 15.gxf3 Qg8 16.Qc2 Nh7 17.d4 Ng5 18.f4 exf4 19.f3 Qc4 20.b3 Qc6 21.Kg2 Rhf8 22.d5 Qb6 23.cxb4 |
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| Feb-15-10 | | chillowack: My comment was directed at the fact that the "sacrifice 12.Rh2" not only didn't occur in the game, it could not have occurred, for it is an impossible move--and therefore the question made no sense. I chose to state this in the form of a joke--which sfm and hedgeh0g, at least, appreciated (thanks gentlemen!). <Sem: <chillowack> Your profile says you're no one to be trifled with. From your comfortable anonimity that's a hell of a statement.>
Actually it's a quote from the movie *The Princess Bride.* But aren't you "comfortably anonymous" here as well? Or is "Sem" your full name, address, and phone number? Mr. Spouge has broadcast so much of his personal information to the world that any modestly clever Internet stalker could appear on his doorstep this very evening. Why, I myself live not far from Mr. Spouge's home; and who knows, one day we might even have the pleasure of continuing this discussion over-the-board! :) But until that day comes: I sincerely apologize if my comment offended anyone; and if my detractors are satisfied, then there shall I let the matter rest. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | johnlspouge: < <chillowack> wrote: [snip] Mr. Spouge has broadcast so much of his personal information to the world that any modestly clever Internet stalker could appear on his doorstep this very evening. Why, I myself live not far from Mr. Spouge's home; and who knows, one day we might even have the pleasure of continuing this discussion over-the-board! :) > Obviously, I did not broadcast my information well enough. A modest Google search will quickly reveal that I have not been "<Mr.> Spouge" for at least 30 years. To avoid any gratuitous misunderstandings, moreover, I should add that I am <not> transgendered. If your comment to <shreyaslathi> was not intended maliciously, I can understand. My sense of humor is occasionally abstruse as well ;>) |
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Feb-15-10
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| Feb-15-10 | | RandomVisitor: <ajk68>After 14.Nf7 Qg8 black cleverly pins the white knight to the white Queen on b3 and also threatens Be6. Black would have an advantage. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | chillowack: <johnlspouge:Obviously, I did not broadcast my information well enough. A modest Google search will quickly reveal that I have not been "<Mr.> Spouge" for at least 30 years.> My apologies, Mr. Spouge: it won't happen again, I assure you. |
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| Feb-15-10 | | johnlspouge: < <chillowack> wrote: [snip] apologies, Mr. Spouge: it won't happen again, I assure you. > OK, ROTL. Only this once, though :) |
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| Feb-16-10 | | kevin86: Black wins by skewering the queen. Mate,however is not in the immediate cards. Or,am I wrong? |
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| Feb-16-10 | | chillowack: <kevin86: Black wins by skewering the queen. Mate,however is not in the immediate cards. Or,am I wrong?> Actually kevin86, mate is indeed in the immediate cards: 23...Qf1+ 24.Kc2 (24.Ke3 Rh3#) 24...Qd1+ 25.Kd3 Rh3+ 26.Kc4 Qe2+ 27.Kd5 (27.d3 Qd3#) 27...c6# (or 27.Qd3#). |
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| Feb-17-10 | | kevin86: <chillowack> there is an escape move at turn 37 ♔xb4. Black will be forced to bring out the hatchet and chop. |
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| Feb-18-10 | | chillowack: Thank you, kevin86--but why stop at catching my error, when you might have gone on to find the mate yourself: 26.Kc4 d5+ 27.Kd5 (27.ed Qe2+ 28.d3 Qd3#) 27...Qb3+ 28.c4 Rd3#. Forced mate! |
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| Jul-12-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
M Bely vs L Lengyel, 1963.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF LENGYEL.
Your score: 40 (par = 26)
LTJ |
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Nov-13-13
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