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Zvonimir Mestrovic vs Svetozar Gligoric
Hastings 1970/71 (1971)  ·  Indian Game: General (A45)  ·  0-1
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Dec-20-02  PVS: 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bg5 appears to be unsound for white.
Dec-20-02
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  refutor: lots of people play it semi-regularly...it's not unsound, it's just a different development scheme...and one i know never play ;)
Dec-20-02
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  Sneaky: you gotta love underpromotions
Dec-21-02  PVS: <Does anyone play it regularly?>

The database says Lev Alburt, if that name means anything to you.

Dec-21-02  Sylvester: I have never heard of him.
Dec-21-02  Bears092: It's not unsound, just not as effective.
Dec-21-02  PVS: Have you checked white's results with it in the database?
Dec-21-02  PVS: <I have never heard of him.>

That should tell you something.

Dec-21-02  ughaibu: Of course it's as different from the Ruy Lopez as the Queen's Gambit is from the King's.
Dec-21-02  mdorothy: Wow, thats a funny lookin game when your used to the normal Ruy Lopez, queen's gambit, ect. that is always used. But its interesting.
Dec-22-02
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  refutor: lev alburt is a fairly famous GM, known for playing opening that aren't mainstream (benko gambit, alekhine's defense etc.)
Dec-22-02
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  refutor: Bronstein vs Fischer, 1960 ...bronstein drew fischer with it, which goes to show that any opening moves are playable at any level, as long as well you play well in the middlegame and the ending ;)
Dec-22-02  Sylvester: Maybe Fischer made a blunder.
Dec-23-02  PVS: He did, it was 19…Rxc2. See if you find the best move. Bronstein vs Fischer, 1960
Dec-23-02  Sylvester: I thought Fischer's move was okay, but I was wrong. My moves are on that game page.
Dec-23-02
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  AgentRgent: Lev Alburt is a former US Champion as well.
Dec-23-02
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  AgentRgent: http://www.uschess.org/news/bio/alb...
Dec-23-02  Sylvester: Thanks AgentRgent.
Jun-25-04  tomh72000: The opening is called the "veresov system"
Jun-25-04
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  acirce: "Every Russian schoolboy" knows that you can't block your c-pawn with your knight like that. The Veresov gives me the creeps!
Aug-01-04
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  kevin86: Of course,if black queens,he is mated in three via Qb8-the text turns the tables. Instead of gaining a queen at the loss of a game,the nascant knight CAPTURES a queen
Sep-11-05
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  nasmichael: A nice solution package from the author of "I Play Against Pieces" and "Shall We Play Fischerrandom Chess?", Gligoric is looking for all solutions, and I appreciate his fresh look at the "exchange rate" of the pieces on the board.
Sep-15-05  IT4LICO: I have found a fine underpromotion combination
http://scacchi.qnet.it/manuale/comb...
but it is only italian.
And i've found a Marshall's loss, not in the database

[Event ""]
[Site "Pistyan"]
[Date "1912"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Sterk"]
[Black "Marshall"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Bb4 5. O-O O-O 6. d3 d5 7. Nxd5 Nxd5 8. exd5 Qxd5 9. Bc4 Qd6 10. c3 Ba5 11. b4 Bb6 12. a4 a5 13. b5 Ne7 14. Ng5 Qg6 15. Qe2 Bf5 16. g4 h6 17. gxf5 Nxf5 18. Kh1 hxg5 19. Rg1 g4 20. Ba3 Nh6 21. Bxf8 Rxf8 22. Rg2 Re8 23. f3 Qg5 24. Re1 Qe7 25. fxg4 Qa3 26. g5 Nf5 27. g6 Re7 28. Qh5 Nh6 29. Qxh6 gxh6 30. gxf7+ Kh7 31. f8=N+ Kh8 32. Rg8# 1-0

Sep-15-05  Rama: Black's very nice centralization -- partly forced -- 15 ... Qe5, leads to control of the a-file and penetration with 22 ... Qa2, and 24 ... Qd2.

Question: can black play 25 ... Qxc1, and win a Rook?

28 ... Rxd4 also is very nice, especially after you realize it is protected by the Bishop!

Dec-27-11  Penguincw: You don't need a queen to win. A knight is perfectly fine, sometimes...
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