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Vladimir Kramnik vs Darmen Sadvakasov
Astana (2001)  ·  Queen's Gambit Accepted: Classical Defense. Rubinstein Variation (D27)  ·  1-0
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Aug-06-06
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  al wazir: Correction: After 19. Nxf7 Rxf7 20. Qxf5 Bxb2 21. Rd7 Qxd7 22. Qxd7 Ne5 23. Bxf7+ Nxf7 24. Rb1 Be5 25. Qxb7, black has only a B and a N for his Q, so that's a win for white. (But cf. today's GOTD between Nunn and Georgiev.)
Aug-06-06
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  jahhaj: Saw enough of this to have played 19.Nxf7 in a real game but I didn't see 20.Qxf5 which I guess was the real winning move. Maybe I would have seen it next move, who knows.

Kramnik week has been easy week I would say.

Aug-06-06  Mendrys: <dr.roho> I feel sorry for you. I wonder what Kramnik could have done to you that would cause you to hate him. Hate is such a strong emotion. Since 2000(not counting the year 2000) he has played Anand 35 times, Topalov 22 times, Kasparov 32 times....Myself, I am rather neutral on Kramnik. He is not as dominating as Botvinnik or Kasparov, not as innovative as Bronstein but who cares. I can't understand all of the vitriol directed against him. He is who he is but apparently he is not who people want him to be.
Aug-06-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Missed this puzzle by miles! But hey, it's Sunday, so I'm not going to feel too bad about myself.
Aug-06-06
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  patzer2: Kramnik's 19. Nxf7!! takes advantage of the power of a "discovered check" (or more specifically a "double discovered check") tactic to win with the threat of mate or decisive gain of material.

The winning followup move 20. Qxf5! is available because Black will be mated immediately with a double discovered check if he dares to capture White's Queen (i.e. 20...Rxf5? 21. Rd8#).

The strong move 21. Bxe5! continues with a second double discovered check and mate threat (i.e. 21...Rxf5? 22. Rd8#), which leaves Black with nothing better than the sad prospect of decisive loss of material after 21... Nxe5 22. Qxe5 Qxe5 23. Rxe5 or 21... gxf5 22. Bxc7 Rxc7 23. Rd7+ .

P.S. To illustrate the unique power of a "double discovered check" take a look at the position after the possibility 21...Rxf5? 22. Rd8#:


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When a King is in check, he has only three possible ways to escape (flee, capture the checking piece or interpose another piece). However, in the case of a "double discovered check," where the discovereing piece (in this instance the Rook on d8) is not subject to capture, the possibility of capturing the checking piece or interposing is not available. So when such a double discovered check occurs, if the King cannot flee then he is mated (as in the above diagram after 21...Rxf5? 22. Rd8#).

Aug-06-06
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  patzer2: <jahhaj> I also saw 19. Nxf7!!, but confess that I initially only contemplated the possibility 19...Rxf7 20. Bxe5 =. However, I suspect we both would have found 20. Qxf5!, especially if we had taken the time after 19...Rxf7 to take a fresh look at the position for a better followup move.
Aug-06-06
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  patzer2: <dr.roho> For a strong game for Kramnik after 2000, see Kramnik vs Leko, 2004, which enabled him to claim a second classical world championship title (i.e. Defeated Kasparov in 2000 and Leko in 2004).

Aug-06-06
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  Honza Cervenka: I have to admit that I did not find 19.Nxf7! because of missing 20.Qxf5. The best what I have found was 19.Bxe5 Nxe5 20.Nxh7 Bxh7 21.Qxe5 Qxe5 22.Rxe5 with advantage of white. Not bad line as better Bishop and active Rooks should be sufficient for win of white here but I was also well aware that this is not the solution of cg.com puzzle...:-)

Nice finish of Kramnik.

Aug-06-06  Wilsonia: That line looks quite drawish to me after 22...Rfe8
Aug-06-06
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  patzer2: If 19...Bxb2 (diagram below),


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White wins with 20. Rxf5! g6 21. Qh6! (also winning and a bit less complex is 21. Nd8+! Kg7 22. Ne6+ Kh8 23. Rxf8+ Rxf8 24. Qe2 Qe5 25. Ra2 Ba3 26. Rxa3 Rf6 27. Nf4 ) 21... gxf5 22. Ne5+ Rf7 (22... Kh8 23. Ng6#) 23. Nxf7 Na5 24. Be6 Re8 25. Ng5+ Rxe6 26. Qxe6+ Kg7 27. Rd1 Kh8 28. Qh6 Kg8 29. Rd8+ Qxd8 30. Qxh7+ Kf8 31. Qf7#

Aug-06-06  like a GM: That's the Kramnik i like to see. Brilliant conception. I always like to see the nature of the position when a combination begins. One of white's rooks was active while both of black's rooks were not, the white queen and the white knigh were also active and near the enemy king and the white square bishop was aiming at the king.The black square bishop was also well placed. In general, the tactics flew from a superior position.
Aug-06-06
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  patzer2: For another interesting game following this opening sequence, see Anand vs Ponomariov, 2002 where Black tried 12...b6.
Aug-06-06  aazqua: Once again, beautiful but obvious. This feels more like a Tuesday puzzle, but then again that's not uncommon. Obviously the x-ray with the bishop points to f7 at a weak point and the knight clearly isn't being sacced as there are too many attacks on the fifth rank. The rook is stuck on the 7th thanks to a discovered double check mate. The real question here is what could Sadsackov possibly have been thinking here? "Hmm. Let me see. I can grab a worthless pawn and then resign four moves later. Man those sausages smell good. Hmm. Pawn." Maybe he should stick to positions that aren't quite so volatile; "lotus" for example. Duffer.
Aug-06-06
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  Honza Cervenka: <Wilsonia: That line looks quite drawish to me after 22...Rfe8> After 23.Rd5 with next Rad1 and a5 white is clearly better.
Aug-06-06  statisticsman: <dr.roho> I have been reading your mindless dribble for a couple of days now. You don't like kramnik, we get it. Nobody cares for your opinion.
Aug-06-06  dr.roho: sorry to all you kramnik fans. Maby i got carried away. sorry.
Aug-06-06  dr.roho: read my full apology at the cafe
Aug-06-06
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  dzechiel: Looked at lots of stuff (including 19 Nxf7), but overlooked the teriffic reply to the capture. <sigh>
Aug-07-06
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  kevin86: A neat mate idea : If 20...Rxf5? 21 Rd8# by double check
Jun-09-07  chessmoron: <1 d4 d5 2 c4 dxc4 3 Nf3 Nf6 4 e3 e6 5 Bxc4 c5 6 0-0 a6 7 a4> Rubinstein's move. The alternative is 7 Qe2 b5 8 Bb3 Bb7 9 Rd1. <7...Nc6 8 Qe2 Qc7> Approved by theory. Isolating the d-pawn by 8 . . . cxd4 9 Rd1 Be7 10 exd4 0-0 11 Nc3 does not quite equalize for Black. <9 Rd1 Bd6 10 dxc5> Black has no problems with his pawn structure, so White must rush his pieces into action if he wants any advantage. The other method is 10 Nc3 0-0 11 h3 b6 12 d5!? exd5 13 Bxd5 Bb7 14 e4, as in Portisch vs I Radulov, 1974. <10...Bxc5 11 b3 0-0 12 Bb2 e5> Black has no time to eliminate White's KB with 12 . . . Ng4 13 Nbd2 Nge5?, as 14 Nxe5 Nxe5 15 Rac1, threatening 16 b4, costs material. <13 Nc3 e4?> Natural, but premature. Black maintains a satisfactory position with 13 . . . Nb4! 14 Rac1 Qe7. If 13 . . . Nb4! 14 Nd5!? Nfxd5 15 Bxd5, Black defends with 15 . . . Bd6 16 Rac1 Qe7 17 Bc4 Bg4 18 h3 Bh5. <14 Ng5> Kramnik will meet 14 . . . Bg4?! not by 15 f3? exf3 16 gxf3 Rae8!, but by 15 Nd5! Bxe2 16 Nxc7 Bxd1 (also 16 . . . Bxc4 17 bxc4 Rad8 18 Nd5 costs Black a pawn) 17 Nxa8 Bh5 18 Bxf6 gxf6 19 Nxe4, winning a pawn. Nor will 15 . . . Qc8 16 Qc2 Bxd1 17 Rxd1 save Black. Then 17 . . . Be7 loses material to 18 Nb6 Qf5 19 Nxf7, while Black suffers on the a1-h8 diagonal with either 17 . . . Nb4 18 Nxf6+ gxf6 19 Qxe4 fxg5 20 Qe5 or 17 . . . Qf5 18 Nxf6+ gxf6 19 Nxe4 Ne5 20 Rd5 Rac8 (hopeless is 20 . . . Be7 21 f4) 21 Nxf6+! Qxf6 22 Rxe5 Qg6 23 Rg5! Qxg5 24 Qc3. <Bd6> Best. If 14 . . . Bf5 15 Nd5 Nxd5 16 Rxd5 Ne7 17 Rxf5! Nxf5 18 Qh5 Nh6 19 Nxe4 Be7 20 Rc1, White's ferocious attack outweighs Black's tiny material plus. <15 Nd5 Nxd5 16 Rxd5 Bxh2+> White refutes 16 . . . h6? by 17 Qh5! (threatening 18 Nxe4 and 18 Nxf7) hxg5 18 Rxg5 Be5 19 Bxe5. The Bishops show their might in the finishes 16 . . . Nb4? 17 Qh5 h6 18 Rxd6! Qxd6 19 Nxf7 and 18 . . . hxg5 19 Rh6! gxh6 20 Qg6 mate. <17 Kh1 Be5 18 Qh5 Bf5?> Black's only chance is 18 . . . h6 19 Nxf7 Rxf7 (not 19 . . . Bxb2?, as 20 Nxh6+ Kh7 21 Nf7+ Kg8 22 Rd7! leads to mate). Neither 20 Bxe5 Qe7 nor 20 Rxe5!? Nxe5 21 Bxe5 Qe7 22 Qg6! Qh4+! 23 Bh2 Qf6 ends Black's resistance. <19 Nxf7!> Winning. <Rxf7> If 19 . . . Bxb2 20 Rxf5 g6, White wraps it up with 21 Qh6! gxf5 22 Nd8+! Rf7 23 Bxf7+ Qxf7 24 Nxf7 Bxa1 25 Ng5. Or, if 19 . . . Bg6, then 20 Nxe5 Bxh5 21 Rd7+ wins a piece. <20 Qxf5!> Another stunner! White relies on 20 . . . Rxf5 21 Rd8 mate and 20 . . . Bxb2 21 Rd7. <20...g6 21 Bxe5, Black Resigns.>

Games like this one should dispel the notion that Kramnik plays too peacefully.

Dec-26-07  mistreaver: Sadvakasov here failed to carry the plan played by Y Seirawan against P Nikolic in Skeleftea 1989 ( no game in database). In that game Black played( with little inversion of moves) 9... Be7 10.dxc5 0-0! 11. b3 e5! 12. Nc3 e4 13. Nd2 Bg4 and obtained the edge.
Nov-22-08
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  notyetagm: 20 ?


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20 Qh5xBf5!


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<patzer2: ... The winning followup move 20. Qxf5! is available because Black will be mated immediately with a double discovered check if he dares to capture White's Queen (i.e. 20...Rxf5? 21. Rd8#).>

(VAR)
20 ... Rf7xQf5?? 21 Rd5-d8#!


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<patzer2: <jahhaj> I also saw 19. Nxf7!!, but confess that I initially only contemplated the possibility 19...Rxf7 20. Bxe5 =. However, I suspect we both would have found 20. Qxf5!, especially if we had taken the time after 19...Rxf7 to take a fresh look at the position for a better followup move.>

Nov-22-08
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  notyetagm: 20 ... ?


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<kevin86: A neat mate idea : If 20...Rxf5? 21 Rd8# by double check>

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Nov-22-08
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  notyetagm: One of my favorite Kramnik games.
Jan-22-09  blacksburg: Qxf5. wow. pretty.
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