Nov-08-11
 | | Phony Benoni: No doubt a tribute to former Heavyweight Boxing Champion "Smokin'" Joe Frazier, who died yesterday due to complications from liver cancer. |
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| Nov-08-11 | | Novirasputin: Is the title of this game today supposed to be a cruel joke? Joe Frazier passed away today, and I hope that is at Best just an unfortunate coincidence, because at worst it seems ATROCIOUS!!! Just my two cents Benoni: I don't see a tribute because reading that title today leaves a bad taste in my mouth. |
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| Nov-08-11 | | Riverbeast: Yeah, this pun seems in pretty bad taste...Have to agree with you <novirasputin> |
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Nov-08-11
 | | sleepyirv: It's a rather famous quote and I don't think it is meant to be a pun on Frazier's death. Though I can see where people might see differently and be offended. |
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| Nov-08-11 | | Novirasputin: Of course its a famous quote (from the Foreman bout) but famous or not putting it up today (as opposed to most any other day) is my problem with it. |
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Nov-08-11
 | | andrewjsacks: Pun beneath customary dignity of CG. |
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Nov-08-11
 | | chessgames.com: The fact is that this pun has been slated for appearance today for the past few weeks. The timing of its appearance is an unfortunate coincidence. |
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Nov-08-11
| | chessgames.com: We decided to cancel this GOTD and use Chigorin vs M Judd, 1889 instead, in order to respect the great former heavyweight champion Joe Frazier who passed away mere hours ago. Our apologies for any misunderstanding caused by this unfortunate coincidence. |
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Nov-08-11
 | | chancho: RIP Smokin' Joe.
You were one of the the great pugilists of all time. |
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Nov-08-11
 | | AnalyzeThis: I couldn't have said it better, chancho. |
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| Nov-08-11 | | PeterThePatzer: It took this patzer a bit to work it out, but Black's queen really is trapped after 16. Bd2 (16. ..Qf6 17. Bg5+; 16. ..Qa3 17. Rd6 d6 18. Bb4) Maybe this game could be renamed "Paschall's Triangle" for the White position after 15. Rd5. Maybe. |
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Nov-08-11
| | chancho: <Life doesn't run away from nobody. Life runs at people.
~Joe Frazier> |
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| Nov-08-11 | | newzild: I find the pun to be a little tasteless, but not offensive. More interesting for me is trying to find a win from the final position, which is by no means obvious. Black has two possible squares for the queen. 16...Qf6 17. Bg5 loses immediately, so Black must play: 16...Qa3
And now the best I can find is:
17. Rxd6 cxd6
If 17...Kxd6 or 17...Qxd6, then 18. Bb4 (+) wins the queen. 18. c7 Nf6
Apparently the best attempt to stop the pawn, as 18...Qc4 19. Qxc4 doesn't help, and 19...Nh6 leads to similar positions to the following line, but with Black's knight decentralised. 19. c8=Q R(either)xc8
20. Bxc8 Rxc8
Otherwise Black is down a piece.
21. Qb7+ Kd8
22. Qxf7
...and White is up a pawn, but the position is hardly resignable, because of the precarious situation of White's king. Can anybody do better? |
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| Nov-08-11 | | Novirasputin: How about just 18. Bb4 anyway?
that move wins the queen as it looks trapped there too |
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| Nov-08-11 | | newzild: Found a win with 17. Qb7, viz:
17...Rf8 (or 17...Rc8)
18. Rxd6 cxd6
Other captures lose the queen to 19. Bb4
19. Bh3+
And with 20. c7 to follow, Black will have to give up his rook, leaving White a piece ahead. |
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| Nov-08-11 | | newzild: <Novirasputin: How about just 18. Bb4 anyway?
that move wins the queen as it looks trapped there too> Oh yeah. |
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| Nov-08-11 | | Riverbeast: That this pun was chosen weeks ago (and was accidently posted pretty much at the time of Frazier's death) makes it a little bit of a strange coincidence, no? |
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Nov-09-11
| | Phony Benoni: Instead of Smokin' Joe, Black looked more like the Paschall Lamb. |
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Nov-19-11
 | | FSR: Ouch - a weird coincidence there between the GOTD title and real life. |
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