|Jan-22-04|| ||kevin86: OUCH!!!! Black fail to look between the moves! |
|Jan-22-04|| ||technical draw: For all of you out there, don't try 4.Nxf7 at home. |
|Feb-04-04|| ||bumpmobile: I would have been so excited at the prospect of winning the exchange with 25. Bd4 Re5 26 Bxe5 dxe5, I never would have even seen the move to win the queen for a bishop. (I'm only on the page in my tactics book about pins, I haven't read any further than that yet). |
|Mar-17-04|| ||ruylopez900: <technical draw> what do you have against the cochrane gambit? IMO there's nothing seriously wrong with it! I play it so that Black doesn't get the drawish game they wanted. |
|Mar-17-04|| ||refutor: i disagree with the drawish game, ruylopez900...most of the lines (if black plays ...f5 for instance) are only drawish is white wants it to be drawish, see boris spassky in the 1980s for instance ;) |
|Mar-18-04|| ||caballos2: According to the database, this is the only Petrov in which Short was trying the Cochrane gambit. I think therefore that he considers it not wholly sound and only uses it against weaker players whom he expects not to find the right defense...just like in this game. 14...Nf8 is probably better. Any comments? |
|Mar-18-04|| ||ruylopez900: <caballos2> I agree that the gambit isn't truly fit for GM play but for club amateurs like us kibitzers its fine. |
|Apr-06-04|| ||jaime gallegos: Cochrane gambit is great to blitz chess !!! |
|Apr-06-04|| ||acirce: Of course Short doesn't consider it "wholly sound", caballos. White has to fight for equality against a prepared player.|
In this game he doesn't even follow up with 5. d4 which is quite necessary.
|Apr-07-04|| ||Stavrogin: refutor. Agree.
Shirov plays the russian defense well too.
And Marshall always played it beautifully!
The drawish reputation is highly exxagerated.
|Apr-07-04|| ||acirce: White can easily steer into very drawish lines though, like 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. Qe2 and soon queen exchange + symmetrical position. |
|May-26-04|| ||get Reti: Caballos2, Short also tried the cochrane with Shirov in 2002. |
|May-26-04|| ||acirce: For a serious Cochrane game that I didn't know existed until today, Topalov vs Kramnik, 1999 |
|Jan-30-07|| ||fm avari viraf: To be candid, I never heard of such a gambit? But I feel it is good against the weaker players as giving them odds.|
|Mar-08-07|| ||fm avari viraf: <acirce> Thanks for the Topalov vs Kramnik Cochrane game. Even I was also not knowing.|
|May-22-09|| ||alexrawlings: <caballos2: According to the database, this is the only Petrov in which Short was trying the Cochrane gambit. I think therefore that he considers it not wholly sound and only uses it against weaker players whom he expects not to find the right defense...just like in this game.> Short played this openning with the white pieces against Shirov in 2002 and lost (game is in the database). I think you're right though, a GM with Black will have the upper hand if he faces this openning.|
|Nov-05-09|| ||The Chess Express: <refutor: i disagree with the drawish game, ruylopez900...most of the lines (if black plays ...f5 for instance) are only drawish is white wants it to be drawish, see boris spassky in the 1980s for instance ;)>|
I beg to differ. In the 80's Boris Spassky played mostly 5. Qe2 which is the ultimate drawing line. I'm a big fan of the Cochrane.
|Feb-01-11|| ||David2009: Short vs L Rouanet, 2001
Enterprising play by Rouanet. Shame about the one-move blunder. Instead 23...Qe7 leaves Black a sound Pawn up.|
Crafty End Game Trainer link to the pre-blunder position:
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(Short vs L Rouanet, simul 2001, 23?)
After 23 Qxf3 Qe7, there are some interesting variations starting 24.Bh6+!?
but they all work out in Black's favour. One line: 24.Bh6+ Kxh6 25.Qxf6 Qxe4 26.Qxf7 Rf8 27 Qd7 (expecting 27...Rf2 and seeing that if 27.Qxa7 Rf2 28.Qa4 Ra8 wins quickly)
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(Black to play)
and now 27...Rf2 no doubt wins but Black has much better. To discover the solution if you are stuck, try out the line against Crafty EGT using the link above.
|Nov-20-12|| ||flightsquare: I disagree completely, try Cochrane at home! Its great at patzer level, especially in blitz. So many people playing Petroff like a boring draw, it immediately puts them in a very uncomfortable situation. Plus, you win lots of games from folks who don't see that 5...nxe4 loses. And otherwise the pawnstorm strategy is clear, you have a plan and black is just looking not to blow it. Of course I agree for strong players its probably unsound but I will never have that problem ;-)|