| Sep-30-03 |
| Kenkaku: Does anyone know of a direct refutation to 3. c4 in the Scandinavian? I started playing this move after becoming dissatisfied with white's other, more commonly played moves, but it seems to me like the kind of move that may have a refutation. |
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Apr-19-04
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| AgentRgent: Kenkaku, I was wondering about this myself, since Black seems to get an fair game after 3. Nc3 Qa5. It would seem then advantageous for white to get the pawn to c4 before playing Nc3. It seems we'll have to look further than Chessgames.com to find answers. |
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| May-18-04 |
| PaulKeres: an interesting 3rd move, with 3. c4, had it played against me last night.
Although Black won the one and only game in the database against it, I think its a decent move. <Kenkaku> and <AgentRgent>, I would interested to know if you find anything on this, or have additional comments. |
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| May-18-04 |
| TrueFiendish: Maybe 4...Nc6 is better, hoping to pressure the centre straight away, though it doesn't look like much can be done: 3c4 looks fine! |
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| May-19-04 |
| Checkmate4327: I think 3 c4 is bad, actually. After 3...Qa5, the d-pawn is pinned. He unpins after 4 Nc3, but then Black has 4...Nc6. If White plays anything other than 5 d4, Black can reply 5...e5 (or after 5 g3,5...Nb4, threatening Bf5, and planning to play 6...Nd3+ if White plays 6 Bg2).After 5 d4, Black has 5...Bf5 and the threat of Nc6-b4 is very serious. 6 a3 doesn't work due to 6...e5! |
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| May-19-04 |
| TrueFiendish: C4327: hoorah for calmer (or plain smarter) heads! You're right and we others missed a move that, really, no-one feeling qualified to discuss openings should miss. I was worried about the d4 square, and indeed it falls in 4327's line after 5...Bf5 6.Bd3 Nxd4. White can try to get fancy, but obviously the first player shouldn't have to do that so early in the game. |
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| Oct-13-05 |
| prinsallan: I recently played this game against my brother (who played white) and won. Not easily, but I got a pawn up early after <Checkmate4327>´s continuation: [Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.10.13"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jonas Astrand"]
[Black "Patrik Astrand"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "B01"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. c4 Qa5
4. Nc3 Nc6 5. d3 e5 6. Nf3 f6
7. Be2 Bb4 8. O-O Bxc3 9. bxc3 Qxc3
10. Bd2 Qa3 11. Qb3 Qxb3 12. axb3 a6
13. Bc3 Nge7 14. b4 O-O 15. b5 Nb8
16. bxa6 Rxa6 17. Rxa6 Nxa6 18. Rb1 b6
19. Bb4 Nxb4 20. Rxb4 Bb7 21. c5 Nd5
22. Rc4 b5 23. Rc1 Ra8 24. d4 exd4
25. Nxd4 b4 26. c6 Ba6 27. Bxa6 Rxa6
28. Nb5 Nc3 29. Nxc3 bxc3 30. h4 Rxc6
31. g3 Kf7 32. Kf1 Ke6 33. Ke2 Ke5
34. Kd3 c2 35. Rxc2 Rxc2 36. Kxc2 Ke4
37. Kd2 Kf3 38. Ke1 c5 39. Kf1 c4
40. Ke1 c3 41. Kd1 Kxf2 42. g4 Kf3
43. g5 f5 44. Kc2 Ke2 45. Kxc3 f4
White resigns.
We are just amatuers, but if you have the time, I´d really appreciate some comments if any of you have the time. (You will see that my brother likes exchanging pieces ^^).
Best Regards
-Prinsallan
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| Nov-20-07 |
| C3r3brum: Well how about 3. ... Qe4+ 4. Qe2 Qxe2+ 5. Bxe2 Nc6 6. Nf3 e5 (Fritz 9) It seems to give black a decent position, amd white can hardly play any other moves without suffering materials or a worse position. 5. ... Nc6 is a key move in order to support 6. ... e5.
And then white must suffer the backward pawn on d2. |
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