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Laszlo Gonda vs C Paci
FSIMA December 2001  ·  Formation: King's Indian Attack (A07)  ·  1-0


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Feb-04-04   Minor Piece Activity: Fun, simple, and direct. I like it! But can't the bishop draw the rook unless the bishop owner screws up?
Feb-04-04   miniSkirt: what if black played Bf4 instead of Bd6 on move 93?
Feb-04-04   TrueFiendish: Yes, I don't think white should ever have won this endgame; in fact, around move 70 he may have been hallucinating some winning chances with his nifty bishop and extra pawn.
Feb-04-04
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  Sneaky: MiniSkirt, the idea is the same no matter where the bishop moves. 93...Bf4 94.Ra7+ Kb8 95.Rf7, threatening both Rf8# and Rxf4.
Feb-04-04   weary willy: er .... Be3+
Feb-04-04   dorn: Today's puzzle has no solution. There is still a draw after 93.Kb6. 93...Bd6?? is simply a fatal mistake.
Feb-04-04   TheMightyPawn: What if 93...Bh2 instead of Bd6 ?
Isnt it still a draw?
Feb-04-04   yoniker: I wondered why i couldn't solve it...
It was a mistake to put that position...it was supposed to be 93 black to move and lose-in any other square black's bishop can check white's king and eliminate both threats...The given position was a draw.
Feb-04-04   TheAussiePatzer: The puzzle is fine of course. What is the technical word on bishop vs. rook though? Seems strange to back the black king into a corner...
Feb-04-04   TheOddFella: On move 93 for Black, there are several losing moves - Ba7+ loses, Bc7+ loses, Bd6 loses, Be5 loses. Every other legal move draws. Unfortunately, Black played one of the losing moves.
Feb-04-04   pogo5: Impossible puzzle! Grrr...
Feb-04-04   pogo5: <Sneaky> You are wrong: 93...Bf4 94.Ra7+ Kb8 95.Rf7 Be3+! and there are no threats anymore
Feb-04-04   ughaibu: White wins whatever black plays, there are no drawing 93rd moves.
Feb-04-04   pogo5: All three moves 93...Bf4/Bg3/Bh2 draw. A authority even greater than a chess engine confirms: check the tablebase server http://chess.jaet.org/ with the position kb6/4R3/1K6/8/8/8/8/8 b
Feb-04-04   ughaibu: Pogo45: My apologies, as far as I can see you're correct and white cant win.
Feb-04-04
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  chessgames.com: Our sincere apologies for presenting a puzzle with no solution. Indeed, at move 93 the position is a theoretical draw; only after 93...Bd6?? does the solution become possible.

So that people who come to the site today don't waste their time, we corrected it retroactively, by changing the problem to 94.? instead of 93.?

Feb-04-04
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  euripides: Acutally this made a good technical lesson - the books tell you that that BvR is drawn if Black gets his king to a corner opposite to the B';s colour, but this elegant way of losing is worth knowing.
Feb-04-04
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  Sneaky: Hmmm... I thought I knew it all and I knew nothing! I learned something here too.
Feb-04-04   catfriend: <White to play after 92...Bb8> Minor Piece, it isn't 92..Bb8, it's 93..Bd6
Feb-04-04
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  patzer2: <Chessgames.com> Excellent endgame problem (94?)! It offered something for both the novice and the expert. Thanks <pogo 5> for demonstrating how Black misplayed the position a move earlier with 93 Bd6? and losing, instead of playing 93...Bf4 or 94...Bg3 or 94...Bh2 with a draw!
Feb-04-04
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  kevin86: Sometimes it is the hardest thing to win a won game or to draw a drawn game.World champions have blown games that have advanced into the 65 plus move mark. <Spassky-Fischer,1972 WCM game 13>
Feb-04-04   Benjamin Lau: No wonder I couldn't do this puzzle. I think chessgames.com should reset this puzzle to the same move as before, for April Fool's Day! ;-)
Feb-04-04   clendenon: the only problem i solved now they tell me there is no solution
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