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|Oct-03-05|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: hi guys! A nice monday puzzle, not too hard I suppose. Qxh2+ works, Qg2+ works, only Qf1+ doesn't work, because if 36.Qf1+, then 36...Kxf1 37.Rxf2+ Ke1 38.Rf1+ Kd2 39.R8f2+ Kd3 (or Kc3 or Ke3)|
|Oct-03-05|| ||Saruman: I thought it was white to move and win, and intended Rxf6. But then I saw that it was black's turn and had the solution within 3 secs. Still it's a little bit more complicated than other monday puzzles.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||dakgootje: not too hard indeed even for monday...But <aginis> after 35.♕xe3 ♖h6 36.♖fe1 ♕xh2 37.♔f1 i think white will be okay wont it?|
|Oct-03-05|| ||BadTemper: scriabin 37. Kxf2 is illegal.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||scriabin369: duh... just goes to show you why I dont play much chess!!!|
|Oct-03-05|| ||dakgootje: btw if i didnt see something in my previous post, like some kind of deadly lloking move or somthing thats probably because i dont have a board with me at the moment...|
|Oct-03-05|| ||Monoceros: Hey, I got it right! Of course, it's Monday. It's pretty obvious that the key-move needs to be a check because White threatens mate; only a queen check is possible; the sacrifice ... Qxh2 follows naturally.|
I've heard it said that a chess problem with two key-moves is "cooked" (i.e. flawed and inelegant) but that's for composed problems, not real games.
|Oct-03-05|| ||ferniebola: You may still have a point, <scriabin369>. After 35.Rd8 exf2+ 36.Rxf2 Rxf2 37.Rxf8+ Rxf8 38.Qe5+ Kg8 39.Qe6+ etc... I don't think that black can avoid the perpetual check, then the game becomes a draw.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||BreakOnThru: wow that took like a microsecond to figure out... then when I clicked on it to get here I realised it was black to play not white to play. Oh well|
|Oct-03-05|| ||kevin86: I first tried 38...♕f1+,going on the x-ray attack,but the king takes..and escapes.I then tried ♕g2+,which of course works...as does the text move.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||schizoidman: What about 35.Qxe3 Rh6 36.Rfe1 Qxh2+ 37.Kf1 etc. I do not see a win for black.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||Monoceros: OK, which is "better", ... Qxh2+ or ... Qg2+? I saw the first and didn't look for the second but there's something a little more elegant about ... Qg2+: not taking anything with the Queen, not even a Pawn, but just putting it right in front of the King to be captured.|
Out of curiosity I punched this into HIARCS and it chose ... Qg2+.
|Oct-03-05|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Nice mate ... thanks to CG for posting it.
|Oct-03-05|| ||yoozum: I think Qg2+ is also possible. It's prettier, I think.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||YouRang: Gee, with the WCC games, I almost forgot to check the daily puzzle. This one wasn't too hard, but more challenging than usual for a Monday.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||Castle In The Sky: twenty seconds! TGIM|
|Oct-03-05|| ||dsloc: I found Qg2 quickly, but didnt even think about Qxh2|
|Oct-03-05|| ||kbob4435: There is a forced perpetual for black if white tries 35. Rd8. Then black takes with exf2+ 36. Rxf2 is forced. Then, instead of Rf6xf2 as Scriabin suggests, the Queen takes on h2. Whether black responds with rook takes or king takes does not matter. The lone mobile rook then has perpetual with checks on f2 and f1.
A very tough game to the very end!
|Oct-03-05|| ||strobane: 36....Qf1+ is mate in 3|
|Oct-03-05|| ||dzechiel: 36...Qg2+ jumped out at me, and of course it leads to mate as well. For some reason I didn't consider the actual move.|
|Oct-03-05|| ||alexandrovm: the queen sac takes the full point home, nice sac!|
|Oct-03-05|| ||BishopofBlunder: I chose Qxh2+ immediately without even considering Qg2+, but that is due to my brutish materialism. But you are right, Qg2+ is prettier.|
|Oct-04-05|| ||kevin86: ♕f1+ fails as the king escapes from the corner. ♕g2 or ♕h2 keep the king in the box|
|Oct-07-05|| ||patzer2: Black demolishes White's weakened castled position with 36...Qxh2+ with a quick mate to follow.|
|Aug-14-12|| ||AuDo: 35.Rd7?? [35.Qxe3! Rh6 36.Qd4+! (36.Rfe1? Qxh2+ 37.Kf1 Rhf6 38.Rd2 Rf3 39.Qd4+ Kg8 Black keeps a strong initiative.) 36...Kg8 37.Qc4+ and forcing a draw after repetition of moves. Page 97 "Break the Rules!" by Neil McDonald.]|
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