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Savielly Tartakower vs William Winter
"Winter of our Discontent" (game of the day Sep-17-08)
London 1932  ·  Indian Game: Yusupov-Rubinstein System (A46)  ·  1-0


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Kibitzer's Corner
Sep-17-08
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: 25...Ke7; 26.Rxd5. And that might not even be the best choice. 26.Qf6+,Kf8 (Kd6; Rxd5+); 27.g6 might be even stronger.
Sep-17-08   backyard pawn: Or as Red Green proclaims, "Now is the winter of our discount tent."

I've always been a fan of Tartakower's play, even though I often can't keep up with his ideas.

Sep-17-08   sushijunkie: Another(!) "Patzer Reinforcement" game for me. I'd never play those moves, 'cuz I just don't understand.
Sep-17-08   newzild: Alekhine's lucid and instructive comments make this GOTD more interesting than usual.
Sep-17-08
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  kevin86: It looks like Alekhine had some discontent with Winter's play. And rightly so...

The best defense against a fiancettoed bishop is to block the pawn center and prevent the bishop's reign to extend to the other side. Black blocks himself and then sets up an odd and ineffective combination to make up for it. The result is a quick loss.

Sep-17-08   Underworld: I do enjoy this old game. It is a game that could even seen as a stonewall. I feel pity everytime I play the stonewall against someone who blocks themselves in like that. It seems that a lot of people don't bother making a reasonable effort to at least learn the system and know how to defend against it. A problem white had was not castling. I always castle in this stonewall system. the g4 move is something that I came up with my own time and am happy to see it over time. This is by far the most incorrect way to go about defending such a position against such a system. I got so involved in the stonewall system and thought that it deserved more attention than it was getting. A lot of club players use it and I've played against people who use it in tournaments. I figured that I would also make a good defense against it and have been using it ever since with great success. I call it the Jones defense being that my last name is Jones. Well, anyway, good game by Tartakower.
Sep-17-08   DoubleCheck: Im still trying to understand the 4...Bb7 followed by 5...d5? from black. Black opened up a good A8-H1 diagonal then decided to close it next move?
Sep-18-08   Jason Frost: A good game by Dr. Tartakower indeed.
Sep-18-08   Underworld: <DoubleCheck> I've seen this in many games with when using this type of attack. I understand by this point that they don't know exactly how to defend against the Austrian Attack/Stonewall Attack, etc. The point in having that would be to put the black N on e4 and protect the pawn with the bishop. Putting the white queen on f3 is actually well known and combats that desire for black by gaining a pawn and keeping the strong position after black loses the white squared bishop. Keeping this diagonal open and putting up d6 instead is wiser.
Sep-21-08   DoubleCheck: <Underworld>
I read what you posted but if i was playing a game and i managed to open up a good diagonal(A8-H1, A1-H8) and then close next move, i might not know when that diagonal might re-open again to captialise.
Sep-22-08   Underworld: Well putting the bishop there on b7 is a bad idea in a lot of cases unless you are shooting to mirror your opponent by doing a stonewall yourself. In many games I watch my opponents move to Bd7, then Be8 to stop certain attacks. Closing in this case is either a bad idea or hoping for a draw considering what the stonewall system brings. Point is to take out White's light squared bishop, but it doesn't always work.
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