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Paul Morphy vs NN
"The Big Easy" (game of the day Jul-12-12)
New Orleans - (1858)  ·  Italian Game: Two Knights Defense. Perreux Variation (C55)  ·  1-0
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Jul-04-12
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  Phony Benoni: <blazerdoodle> I wouldn't be so sure NN wasn't blindfolded. Many of Morphy's wins were so bloody that his opponents preferred not to watch.
Jul-04-12  waustad: When he did Ke6 I knew a serious king hunt was on and there would be no quarter given, but by then he was already worse.
Jul-04-12  scormus: <Phony Benoni> I don't like the sight of blood, especially when its mine. If I'd been in B's postion any time after about move 8 ... I'd have shut my eyes anyway.
Jul-04-12  backrank: This is Game 31 in 'Morphy Chess Masterpieces' by Reinfeld and Soltis.
Jul-04-12  MountainMatt: Almost as if Morphy went for the most humiliating winning line possible against NN, aka Rodney Dangerfield.
Jul-04-12  e4 resigns: Paul Morphy for game of the day!
Jul-05-12
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  kevin86: White mates after a chase like a fox-hunt.
Jul-12-12
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  Abdel Irada: <<MountainMatt:> Almost as if Morphy went for the most humiliating winning line possible against NN, aka Rodney Dangerfield.>

No, it was the other Dangerfield ... the one on FICS, who doesn't *deserve* no respect.

Jul-12-12
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  Richard Taylor: 6. ... Qe7 is slightly better for Black.

10. Nc3 is inferior to 10. Re1+

Black had to play 9. ... Ke8

Most reasonably strong club or tournament players would find this attacking idea quite easily these days.

Of course they owe this knowledge to Morphy and others. Most of Morphy's players were not very strong however so it is hard to see how good he was.

But he certainly knew about development and piece placing etc.

Jul-12-12  ventricule: I don't understand, isn't it the same gotd as on Jul 4th , with a different move order at the beginning ? Looks like CG shamefully removed the July 4th game from the gotd archive, so I cannot verify.

Is it some kind of apology for the slightly inaccurate move order last week ?

Jul-12-12  Qxf7: I would have deviated with 5... Ne5. Of course I've also got the advantage of 150+ years of opening theory on the poor N.N.

As for the actual sac on move 8, there's enough positional justification that any player with a rating above 1500 (moderate club player) should be able to explain why it works.

Of course a lot of that positional theory was developed by other people studying Morphy's play, so that really says something about how far ahead of the curve he was.

Jul-12-12  sorokahdeen: Wasn't this the game of the day within the last ten days?

Morphy-vs-Deja Vu?

Jul-12-12  sfm: <Qxf7: I've also got the advantage of 150+ years of opening theory> Right! The problem is of course that our opponents have the same advantage. So did we gain anything? No! Just more stuff to study!

If my memory does not fail me, 6.-,Nxd5 is nowadays simply rated a "?".

Jul-12-12  sfm: NN plays very well, actually. Apart from 6.-,Nxd5, and the do-or-die 9.-.Ke6 (more prudent to simply returning the knight with 9.-,Bf6) was any mistakes made?
Jul-12-12  sfm: There's something cute in only having the pieces left you use for the mate, while the opponent has a lot more. Morphy was good at that.
This is an example. The most famous one is of course Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, 1858
and here is a rare one, mate by castling short:
Morphy vs A Morphy, 1850
Jul-12-12  Llawdogg: Wow! Another Morphy masterpiece!
Jul-12-12  ZeejDonnelly: <Wasn't this the game of the day within the last ten days? Morphy-vs-Deja Vu?>

Yes, I seem to remember an incredibly similar game with a very similar pun. The Battle of New Orleans, perhaps?

Jul-12-12
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  kevin86: Morphy sac to open king's position...Morphy chases king...Morphy captures king...nuf said.
Jul-12-12
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  Chessmensch: Re repeat of the game: I didn't go back to check (I have them archived), but I clearly remember the kibitzing chain prior to today.
Jul-12-12  ZeejDonnelly: I rarely kibitz regarding actual moves/play, since I am a low-rated, amateur blitz player. BUT I would appreciate it if <Chessgames> offered more GOTDs that illustrate strategical/tactical themes that are OBVIOUS yet difficult for low-rated (1400) amateurs to see. I find that my greatest challenges are not whether I can SEE a combination, but rather that I can see whether a combination is possible.

I understand that this is an incredibly difficult task for the talented people at CG.com. If anything, this problem (with a sham queen sacrifice in the middle of the week rather than on a Monday) demonstrates how incredibly informative and instructive this website is. I am truly overjoyed to have discovered it.

I also have access to a wonderful university library which has a good amount of chess books. I'm sure that those individuals who do not/cannot afford such access would also appreciate this.

Thanks very much to the knowledgeable kibitzers!

Oct-13-13  kjr63: 10.Nc3. Morphy sacrifices Knight to get Ra1 out quickly?
Jul-27-14  TPFIN: It is over faster if 19. Dc4 ...
Oct-19-14  Ke2: Nc3 is great! It even takes a while for the comp to recognize as best.
May-17-16
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  steinitzfan: I think 18b4 is a wonderful move. If black takes the pawn -- as he did -- white's rook becomes a powerhouse on the queenside. If he retreats behind the bishop, the pawn holds the vital c5 square and enables Bf3#. If black retreats to the queenside, the pawn provides support for a quick mate.
May-17-16
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  RookFile: It's possible that a computer could play 6....Nxd5 and hold the position. It's not as simple as one might think. I'm sure of one thing - I wouldn't try it.
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