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| doreshk: nice puzzle, but wouldn't it be more intresting if it started with move 16 |
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| Jan-04-04 |
| Benjamin Lau: At first, I thought I had "cooked" the problem with 17...Ne2+, thinking 18. Kh1 Bxg2+ 19. Kxg2 Qxe4#, but then I remembered I forgot that white could simply play 20. f3. |
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| Jan-04-04 |
| nf3wins: If you wanted to play on, you could do BxN, winning a minor. If QxB, then Nh3, winning a queen for bishop. However, the mate is nice too |
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Jan-04-04
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| patzer2: An amazing move for Black was 13...Bf3!! with clear advantage. If 14. gxf3 exf3 15. Qe5 <15. Nbd2 Qg4+ 16. Kh1 Qg2#> 15...Bd6! 16. Qd4 <16. Qg3 Bxg3  > 16...Qh3 and 17. Qg2# |
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Jan-04-04
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| patzer2: Instead of 17. Nxe4?, White should have established a defense with some drawing chances by playing 17. Qc3!? Fritz 8 gives 16. Nxc5 Nf4 <17. Qc3!?> 17...Ne2+ <if 17...Qh3 18. Qxf3 > 18. Kh1 Nxc3 19. Nxc3 f5 20. gxf3 Qxf3+ <if 20...exf3 21. Rg1 f4 22. Ne6 fxg3 23. Rxg3 Qf5 24. Nxc7 Rab8 25. Ne6 Rf7 26. Rag1 g5 27. c5 Qb4 28. Rh3 Rxc5 with a slight Black advantage> 21. Kg1 f4 22. Rae1 a6 23. N5xe4 (-0.91 @ 16 depth 717kN/s) with a clear Black advantage. In this position, White will win the Bishop, but that will still leave Black with two knights and two extra pawns for the Queen. This will not make for a quick or certain victory for White, and with less than best play (e.g. against a human opponent of less than expert strength) Black has practical drawing chances. |
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Jan-04-04
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| kevin86: The best of this type!! All of black's three attacking pieces can be captured ,but the capture of any leads to mate by the others. 18  xf4  xg2*;18gxf3 g2*;or the text 18 gxh3  xh3* |
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| Jan-04-04 |
| fatbaldguy: <patzer2> 17 Qc3 is a nice idea, but does 17 Qe3 accomplish the same goal without running into the knight fork on e2? |
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| Jan-04-04 |
| TheTurk: hey kevin86, how do you make those pretty queen and kight characters? |
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| Jan-04-04 |
| ughaibu: I think the queens look like bowls of steaming soup, horrible. |
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Jan-04-04
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| patzer2: White has several early opportunities in the opening to avoid the problems encountered in this game. 4. d3 entering the modern Bishops opening and inviting the Giocco Piano has been the fashion among top players, as in Joel Benjamin vs Shabalov, 2002 However, two recent wins in D Flores vs Shabalov, 2003 and D Tyomkin vs Onischuk, 2003 seem to indicate the GMs see nothing particularly difficult for Black against 4. d3. 4. d4 is also a sound alternative, finding a balance between the positional 4. d3 and the controversial 4. Ng5 line, with all its attendant fireworks and heavy analysis. A recent example of GM play in the 4. d4 line is D Tyomkin vs Onischuk, 2003 Of course some GMs may not like to oppose it as Black, because it gives lower rated players drawing and winning chances as in Ni Thomas vs Hector, 2002 However, 4. d4 is double edged, as in the nice win by a GM as Black against a Master in R Harper vs E Dervishi, 2002 6. Bb5+ entering the heavily analyzed mainline of this variation, gives White even winning chances as in Short vs Wedberg, 2002 and Sutovsky vs Jonkman, 2001 However, Black has good chances also against 6. Ng5 as in Short vs Xie Jun, 2002 and Sutovsky vs E Postny, 2001 White's 6. d3 is a dated but respectable move that was played by Morphy and later by Korchnoi, which gives White equality after 6. d3 h6 7. Nf3 e4 <8. Qe2> Nxc4 9. dxc as in Korchnoi vs Suetin, 1952 |
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Jan-04-04
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| patzer2: I meant to say Black has good chances also in the 6. Bb5+ line of the two knights as in Short vs Xie Jun, 2002 and Sutovsky vs E Postny, 2001 (see links above). |
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Jan-04-04
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| kevin86: to TheTurk:just put brackets around the notation you want. This program turns your P N B R Q K- into    |
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Jan-05-04
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| patzer2: <fatbaldguy> Glad you are questioning the analyhsis and looking for yourself. Unfortunately, 17. Qe3?! fails to 17...Nxg2! with a win for Black. Best play according to Fritz 8 would go <17. Qe3?!> 17...Nxg2! 18. Nd2 <18. Qc3 Nf4  > 18...Nxe3 19. fxe3 Rfe8 20. Rf2 h5 21. Kf1 Rac8 22. Nxb7 Rb8 23. Nc5 (-3.31 @ 13 depth & 732kN/s) with a won game for Black. |
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Jun-02-04
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| tpstar: I don't understand 12 ... Qd7!? over the natural 12 ... Re8. If 13. Nxe4 Nxe4 14. Qxe4 Rae8 15. Qf4 (15. Qd3? Be2 wins the exchange) Be2 16. Re1 Bxc4! wins one Pawn back due to the back rank mate threat, but then 17. Rxe8 Rxe8 18. Bd2 Bxd5 19. Nc3 and Black stands better but material is equal. Meanwhile 13 ... Rae8 14. Nbc3 Nxe4 15. Nxe4 f5 doesn't work because 16. Nxc5 hits the Qd7. Is there a better line against 13. Nxe4 here? e51996-tpstar0 (Yahoo 6/2/04): 10. 0-0 0-0 11. Nfd2 Bg4 12. Qe1 Re8 13. Nb3 Bd6 14. Nc3 a6 15. Be3 b6 (talk about a slow build-up!) 16. Nd2!? Qe7 17. h3?! Qe5 18. f4 ef 19. Nxf3 Bxf3 (19 ... Qxe3+ 20. Qxe3 Rxe3 21. hxg4 Nxg4 22. Rae1 Rae8) 20. Rxf3 Qh2+ 21. Kf2 Rxe3! 22. Qxe3?? (22. Kxe3 Re8+; 22. Rxe3 Bc5 23. Kf1 Bxe3 24. Qxe3 Re8 25. Qf2 Nh5 26. Ne2 Qe5) Bc5 and Black won (0-1). |
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Nov-23-06
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| Benzol: Wasn't this game played at 10 seconds per move? |
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