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|Sep-29-05|| ||elh: Black can just scrape through the Fried Liver, and maybe if he prepares it he can score a cheapo win. But the Lolli (6. d4!, and hold off the knight sac for a few moves) is basically a forced win for white.|
|Mar-09-06|| ||JASAHA: There is a wild variation on the Two Knights Defence known as the Traxler Counter-Gambit or the Wilkes-Barre variation: 4.Ng5 Bc5!?,|
|May-17-06|| ||zb2cr: For those who like to cross all T's, etc., if Black plays 21. ... Qh4; 22. Rxg7+. If Black plays 22. ... Kd8; 23. Qd5+ with mate next move. If Black plays either 22. ... Ke8 or 22. ... Kf8, White replies with 23. Rg8+, Ke7; 24. Qh7+, Qf7; 25. Qxf7#.|
|Jun-12-06|| ||OBIT: The chessgames.com statistics for Black's fifth move are pretty interesting. Black breaks even against the book 5...Na5, but scores better than 60% with the lesser known 5...Nd4 or 5...b5. In contrast, his winning percentage with 5...Nxd5 is horrendous, with White scoring well over 80% after both 6. Nxf7 and 6. d4. I guess Black is fine so long as he doesn't blunder with 5...Nxd5??|
|Aug-21-06|| ||IMDONE4: Ke6 is the losing move.|
|Sep-19-07|| ||wolfmaster: <IMDONE4> Maybe so, but after any other move, White takes at d5, a pawn up, Black's king precariously placed, and a lead in development.|
|Jan-26-08|| ||wolfmaster: 21...Qh5 22.Be2 and the queen is trapped.|
|Feb-07-08|| ||ajile: 3..Be7 seems to be solid enough. Why tempt White with 3..Nf6?|
|Feb-07-08|| ||blazerdoodle: Bobby Fischer Wrote an article on the Fried Liver Attack in the 60's for chesslife. Always preferred Na5 myself. One slip and your fried liver in the skillet.|
|Feb-15-08|| ||MoonlitKnight: The concrete refutation of 5...Nxd5 was shown by Paul Morphy, but it seems most of the chess world has forgotten about it by now. With 6.d4! white gets a huge advantage, the main point being that after 6...exd4 7.0-0 he is simply winning, since the knight sacrifice on f7 has been prepared and cannot be stopped. The best "try" is probably 6...Be6 7.0-0 Qd7 8.Nxe6 fxe6 9.dxe5 0-0-0, but even though black has developed quickly, white has a pawn and the bishop pair and should be clearly better.|
Here are the main lines that Morphy demonstrated:
6.d4 exd4 7.0-0 Be6 8.Re1 Qd7 (note that the tricky Qd6 does not work since after 9.Nxf7 Kxf7 10.Qf3+ Ke7 11.Bxd5 Ne5 white has 12.Qh5 which wins the piece back with a crushing position) 9.Nxf7! Kxf7 10.Qf3+ Kg8 11.Rxe6! with a winning advantage.
6.d4 exd4 7.0-0 Be7 8.Nxf7! Kxf7 9.Qf3+ Ke6 10.Re1+ Ne5 11.Nc3!! dxc3 12.Bf4 Bf6 13.Bxe5! Bxe5 14.Rxe5+! Kxe5 15.Re1+ Kd4 16.Bxd5 and black is getting mated.
A very forceful demonstration and a great display of Morphy's immense attacking technique.
|Oct-08-08|| ||just a kid: The Fried Liver is dubious in my opinion.|
|Dec-02-08|| ||Abdooss: Svidler almost beat Anand playing Fried Liver Attack in 1999, which spawned from Ruy Lopez Open - Svidler drew that game!
Svidler vs Anand, 1999|
|Mar-16-09|| ||dwavechess: 15/21 concur with rybka 3 at 3 min. per move with rybka.abk book for Polerio|
|May-05-09|| ||WhiteRook48: trapped after 21...Qh5 22 Be2 Bg4 23 Bxg4|
|May-13-09|| ||Jgamazo: I too prefer to attack. I play 5. ... Na5 as Morphy did, to avoid the fried liver. 6.Bb5+ c6 7.dxc6 bxc6 8.Qf3 h6 and the attack is over.|
|Jun-13-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 5...Nxd5??? 5...Na5 is the correct move|
|Jul-02-09|| ||Knight13: <WhiteRook48> Actually 5...Nxd5 works if Black plays correctly.|
|Mar-04-10|| ||rich187113: No one start with d4 or c4 back then.|
|Oct-20-10|| ||sevenseaman: A crystalized thinking process marks Polerios game here and he duly arrives at just reward.|
|Jun-21-11|| ||Llawdogg: Wow! A four hundred year old game! And this Polerio guy has six other games in the database.|
|Dec-20-11|| ||Penguincw: Nice effort by black not to lose the game.|
|Mar-14-12|| ||RookFile: Nothing quite like seeing Italians play the Fried Liver. They have a way of going right for the throat.|
|Jul-12-12|| ||Peligroso Patzer: < Abdooss: Svidler almost beat Anand playing Fried Liver Attack in 1999, which spawned from Ruy Lopez Open - Svidler drew that game! Svidler vs Anand, 1999 >|
Although the early middlegame play in the referenced game featured motifs similar to a Fried Liver Attack, the opening in that game actually would not be classified precisely as such.
As far as is concerned the assessment that Svidler almost beat Anand in that game, indeed, yes! Svidler actually had a forced win in the final position (in which he agreed to a draw). See comments posted in this thread: Svidler vs Anand, 1999.
|Feb-04-13|| ||Llawdogg: Thanks zb2cr for the conclusion.|
|Mar-30-13|| ||Check It Out: 1610! Fun game to play through, and interesting notes in the kibitzing.|
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