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Jurez vs Gasloi
ARG 1968  ·  Italian Game: Scotch Gambit. Double Gambit Accepted (C56)  ·  0-1
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Jan-17-11
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  sleepyirv: F-pawn is pinned, which means Queen sacrifice, rook check, rook check on the H file, and then rook check on G file with White's king dead.
Jan-17-11  wladimirsky: 16...Qxg3!

Took me more than 30 seconds. Nice to see a Monday which requires looking more than 2 moves ahead.

Jan-17-11
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  lost in space: 16...Qxg3+ 17. hxg3 Rxg3+ 18. Kh2(h1) Rh3+ 19. Kg1(g2) Rg1+ 20. Qg4 Rxg4#

I love Mondays!

Jan-17-11  VincentL: "Very Easy".

Material equal, but black has all his major pieces bearing down on white`s king.

16.....Qxg3+ leads to mate.

(a) 17. Kh1 Qg2 mate

(b) 17. hxg3 Rxg3+ 18. Kh1/Kh2 Rh3+ 19. Kg1/Kg2 Rg8+, and mate follows after white gives up his B and Q.

I have seen easier Monday puzzles.

Letīs check.

Jan-17-11  newzild: Yes, a mate-in-five Monday that is a little trickier than usual.
Jan-17-11
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  Phony Benoni: Is this as trivial as we think? What if, after <18...Rh3+>, White tries 19.Kh2 Rg8+ 20.Qg4?


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Now 20...Rxg4+ allows 21.Kxh3 and 20...hxg4 closes down the attack, so it seems like Black must play 20...Bxg4. Now White can play 21.Rg1 with a flight square for his king. It's probably still lost, but it isn't mate.

Jan-17-11
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  dzechiel: Black to move (16...?). White is up a pawn. "Very Easy."

This one is "very easy" in the sense that all of white's moves are forced, but it's still a six move checkmate.

Starting with the obligatory queen sacrifice:

16...Qxg3+ 17 hxg3

Of course the f-pawn is pinned by the black bishop on c5, and moving the king does no good as after 17 Kh1 Qg2# is mate.

17...Rxg3+ 18 Kh2

Or 18 Kh1, it comes out the same.

18...Rh3+ 19 Kg2

Or 19 Kg1, once again it does not matter.

19...Rg8+ 20 Bg5 Rxg5+ 21 Qg4 Rxg4#

The most advanced Monday position I remember. Time to check and see when white actually resigned.

Jan-17-11
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  dzechiel: <Phony Benoni> is quite right! After Qg4 black cannot take with the rook as that blocks the bishop's protection of the other rook. I really should have noticed this!
Jan-17-11  VincentL: <Phony Benoni>Good catch.

I didn't notice this, and particularly as itīs Monday, I think many will overlook it.

Jan-17-11  mrsaturdaypants: Not quite so simple, is it?

16...Qxg3+ 17 hxg3 Rxg3+ 18 Kh2 Rh3+ 19 Kg2 Rg8+ 20 Qg4

And now 20...Rxg4+ leads to Kxh3. The position is still quite bad for white, but not completely losing, I don't think.

If instead 20...Bxg4, I guess 21 Rg1 is best. Material is almost even, though white's pieces are barely developed.

I think chessgames is messing with us. Monday indeed.

Time to see what everyone else thinks.

Jan-17-11
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  estrick: After 20 ...Bxg4 21. Rg1,

How about 21 ...Rxc3 22. bxc3 Be2+
and after the king is forced to the h file, more bishop checks, grab the rook, and the White king is still in jeopardy?

Jan-17-11  mrsaturdaypants: Ah, I second Phony Benoni, who looks like Beaker. Good company indeed.

This is going to be a very challenging week, I'll wager.

Jan-17-11  ruzon: But Black gets the rook back, right?

16...Qxg3+ 17. hxg3 Rxg3+ 18. Kh2 Rh3+ 19. Kg2 Rg8+ 20. <Qg4> Rxg4+ 21. Kxh3 <Rg1+> 22. Kh2 Rxf1.

Jan-17-11
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: I finally solved it, but this is the hardest Monday I've ever seen--all that trouble just to win a pawn? No mate in two?
Jan-17-11
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  Phony Benoni: <ruzon> Yes, Black can get the rook back easily. And there's no denying he has a superior, probably winning position, with a strong attack and a pawn up. The point is that the <20.Qg4> defense at least stops the mate for the moment, with a more-or-less playable game.

And, besides, it's such a neat move!

Jan-17-11  ounos: Ah, Morphy would be pleased with this game...
Jan-17-11  Superfish: In the variation 19. Kg2 Rg8+ 20. Qg4 Bxg4 21.Rg1 I think Black continues his winning attack with 21... Rf3! i.e. 22. Ne4 Rxf2+ 23. NxR Be2+ 24. Kh2 Bd6+ 25. Kh3 RxR. Black is also threatening Nf5 and Nh4 or Nd4. White is toast!
Jan-17-11
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  M.Hassan: "Very Easy" Black to play 16.....?
Balck is a pawn down
Black has four pieces aiming or directing towards White King position.Queen,Rook an 2 Bishops. He can appropriately sac one and win:

16......Qxg3+
17.hxg3 (f pawn is pinned) Rxg3+
18.Kh2 Rh3+
19.Kg2 Rg8+
White has no choice except to cover the check by his Queen

20.Qg4 Bxg4
and it is mate next move.
Not that easy for a Monday!

Jan-17-11
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  patzer2: Mate-in-six on a Monday with 16...Qxg3+! This week's line up of puzzles must really be tough.
Jan-17-11
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  M.Hassan: <and it is mate next move> I noticed that although White has become week in materials but he is not mate next move. He can continue thus:

21.Re1 Bf5+
22.Kf1 Rh1+
23.Ke3 Bg4+
24.f3 Bxf3+
25.Kxf3 Rxe1
and h pawn likely to reach promotion.

Jan-17-11  Stormbringer: Didn't get it, even the almost but not quite mate in 6, didn't see 18 .. Rh3+
Jan-17-11  gmalino: It's monday,f2 is pinned, black battery on the g-file, so it looks like the typical queen-sac:

16........Qxg3+
17.hxg3 Rxg3+
18.Kh2 Rh3+
19.Kg2 Rg8#

O.k. we know that Queens sacs are usual monday stuff, but isn't this one a little bit too complicated for mondays?

We'll see soon.

Jan-17-11  gmalino: Yes,
19......Rg8
isn't mate, but I don't care!
Not in this line!
:-)
Jan-17-11  sfm: <Phony Benoni: Is this as trivial as we think? What if, after 18...Rh3+, White tries 19.Kh2 Rg8+ 20.Qg4?> Oops. Detail. ;-)
OK, on 20.-,Bxg4 21.Rg1, maybe the fastest is 21.-,Bf3+ 22.KxR,RxR. Black threatens the killing -,Bd6 or -,Nf5 and what is White to do? 23.Kh2,Rg4 doesn't help at any affordable cost.
Jan-17-11
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  noctiferus: <dzechiel>
Actually, Kg1 and Kg2 are not equivalent: Kg1 leads to your mate, while Kg2 allows: 20.Qg4 Bxg4 21.Bxf7 Rg7
or 20.Bg5 Rxg5+ 21.Qg4 hxg4 , worse
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