|Feb-09-04|| ||Just Jim: An older line which is extremely risky for black. All the pins in the game eventually defeated black horribly. |
|Feb-09-04|| ||technical draw: Amazing number of pins. I wonder what the record is? |
|Apr-13-05|| ||al wazir: I think 10...Qc7 holds out a little longer. With the same moves 11 and 12, if white plays 13. O-O-O black can answer 13...Bd6 and is one tempo better off than in the game. Now if white continues 14. Rhe1, then 14...Rd8 15. Nxd5 cxd5 16. Qxd5+ Kf6 17. Bxe5+ Bxe5 18. Qxd8+ Qxd8 19.Rxd8 with an eventual win.|
Of course on move 13 white can capture on d5 instead of castling. That leads to a win too.
|Apr-05-06|| ||blingice: God I hate this opening when I'm playing black. I want to slap the other person and say "PLAY CHESS NOW!" My problem is, I don't really know how to refute it. This resembles what happened to me at FICS today, and I lost in 14 moves.|
|Apr-06-06|| ||MackTheTemp: look on chess.fm for video lectures on how to play the 2 knights game if u want to play this as black. it's not difficult to refute but can lead to a fairly equal and sharp game|
|Apr-11-06|| ||moppa: As the Opening Explorer says, the blunder was 5. - Nxd5, white winning 83%. Two Knights is best as a gambit, and black should play 5.-Na5, b4 or Nd4|
|Sep-01-06|| ||lopium: moppa, 5...b4? Do you mean b5? Seems losing a N to me, isnt it?|
|Oct-11-06|| ||Leviathan: <lopium: Seems losing a N to me, isnt it?>
Not really but the Ulvestad variation (5. exd5 b5?!) is surely one of the sharpest ways to handle the two knights defense.|
I used to play this variation almost exclusively against 4.♘g5 in blitz because black usually answers naturally to it with 6.♗xb5(?) and then 6. .. ♕xd4 forces the bishop's retreat 7.♗f1 or the loss of the g2 pawn, and black has a sharp attack in any case.
I gave up playing it after a few losses in the 6.dxc6(!) bxc4 variation in which black's attacking chances seem too vague compared to the severe positional weaknesses he has to deal with.
1. e4 e5 2. ♘f3 ♘c6 3. ♗c4 ♘f6 4. ♘g5 d5 5. exd5 b5 6. dxc6 bxc4 7. ♘c3 ♗c5 8. ♕f3 O-O 9. O-O ♗g4 10. ♕g3 and black has very little.
I'd rather stick to the good old Giuoco piano against 3.♗c4 :)
|Feb-04-08|| ||Autoreparaturwerkbau: <technical draw> Is it possible to reach more than 5 pins, this is with Q, 2R, 2Bs? I mean, are other pieces piningable? Ok, of course you can have more queens than one...|
|Feb-05-08|| ||technical draw: <Auto> You could probably set up a board with more than five pins, but I doubt it would occur in regular play.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||Phony Benoni: For absolute pins (a pin of a piece against the king), the limit would be four with the regular complement of pieces since both bishops cannot execute an absolute pin at the same time. Something like this:|
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After <1.Qe1+>, Black must walk into the fourth pin by interposing his bishop. He may have compensation, however.