|Feb-20-11|| ||hellopolgar: No comment yet?! What a beautiful game.|
|Feb-20-11|| ||Phony Benoni: For those not in the know, <Fernschach> indicates a correspondence game.|
Black never seems to be in this one. 10...d5 seems to be too early, as White easily and quickly knocks over the weakened e-pawn. Black's ♗a7, hiding behing the ♘b6, is certainly not much compensation.
The knight does get credit for trying, but having one piece grab three pawns on successive moves while storm clouds are gathering is rarely a recipe for success.
The finish, after any reasonable queen move, would be 29.Nf6+ gxf6 30.Bxf6, as Black's dark-squared bishop watches helplessly from the Western front. Even 28...Qe3 won't stop this, as the queen won't be able to settle to h6 after all.
The game is a good example of high-class correspondence play. Over-the-board, White would probably have been a bit more careful about letting Black's knight eat its fill of pawns. In correspondence, the consequences can be calculated exactly.
The pun relates to the famous statue by Auguste Rodin: http://yousang2me.files.wordpress.c.... If you're an American from my generation, you'll remember the profound and serious television show which used this as an enduring prop.
|Feb-20-11|| ||rilkefan: I wondered about 16...Nxc4.|
|Feb-20-11|| ||Infohunter: <Phony Benoni:
The pun relates to the famous statue by Auguste Rodin: http://yousang2me.files.wordpress.c.... If you're an American from my generation, you'll remember the profound and serious television show which used this as an enduring prop.>
Ah, yes: "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis."
|Feb-20-11|| ||Infohunter: On the actual game, though, I wonder if Rodin decided not to play a Ruy Lopez on account of Florian's having been the author of a monograph on the Schliemann Defense. It would be interesting to know.|
|Feb-20-11|| ||redcircle: what if 15..Bxf2 16.Kxf2 Qf6+ ?i think black is winning in this variation.the pawn on e5 is poisoned in many lines of this variation of the two knights defence with the early d5|
|Feb-20-11|| ||Gilmoy: <redcircle: what if 15..Bxf2 16.Kxf2 Qf6+ ?> 17.Qf3 with a counter-double on Nd5. And even after that, 17..Qxe5 18.Qxd5 Qxd5 19.Bxd5, there's <mutual threat> to d3 and b7: 19..c6 20.Be4, and White keeps BB for R.|
|Feb-20-11|| ||David2009: <Phony Benoni: For those not in the know, <Fernschach> indicates a correspondence game.> This is very helpful. OTB Black can fight on in the resignation position. 28...Qxe7 29.Qxe7 Rae8 |
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Now there seems nothing better than 30.Qxb7 Rxe5 31.Qxa7 Rxe4 32.Qxa5 Re7
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and White has a very hard fight on his hands. I can't find a winning plan.
Crafty End Game Trainer link to the position at White's 24th move:
|Feb-20-11|| ||WhiteRook48: this is a very nice game|
|Feb-20-11|| ||castilho: David2009,
After 29. ... Rae8 White can play 30. Nf6+ gxf6 31. Qxf6 + -
|Feb-20-11|| ||Yodaman: <David2009> I played out the endgame against Crafty and won.|
I broke off your line with 30. Qh4 Rxe5 31. Ng5 Rxg5 32. Qxg5
At this point white is up a queen to a bishop and four pawns. I'm a pretty mediocre player and yet I was able to win against Crafty on my first attempt in about 5 minutes.
Play continued: 32... b5 33. Qe7 Bb6 34. Qb7 then the bishop moved an I took the pawn. Eventually I took out his pawns and queened my white g-pawn for fun and won.
|Feb-20-11|| ||th3doctor: @castilho,
not quite, because after 31. Qxf6?? Rxe5! 32. g3 Re6 (32. Qxe5?? Bb8!) black will have consolidated his position and the pawns on the queenside will be difficult for white to cope with.
|Feb-20-11|| ||aniceto: Another possibility is 30.Qg5, which threatens 31.Nxf6+, because White can recapture with the bishop and avoid the pin of his Queen (as in castilho's line)|
|Feb-20-11|| ||Bignevermo: thanks phony!! we arent all here aware of these things!! thanks again!|
|Feb-20-11|| ||David2009: <Yodaman: <David2009> I played out the endgame against Crafty and won.
I broke off your line with 30. Qh4 Rxe5 31. Ng5 Rxg5 32. Qxg5> Congratulations! I had seen that I couldn't guard the Be5 with the Q (becuse of Bb8 skewering/pinning the Q as pointed out by <th3doctor>) but I had missed your resource of continuing the attack with Qh4 then Ng5 winning an exchange back again.|
Shows the importance of lateral thinking in chess!
|Feb-23-11|| ||kevin86: mate will come,soonest|