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Paul Morphy vs Thomas Jefferson Bryan
"Giants Beat Patriots" (game of the day Feb-06-12)
New York (USA) 1859  ·  Italian Game: Evans Gambit. Lasker Defense (000)  ·  1-0
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Feb-06-12  joeysilv: Great pun, bravo!
Feb-06-12  Alphonse1973: Nice pun. I'd never thought of such a pun, though. I'd rather had thought something like this: "Life of Brian".
Feb-06-12
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  OhioChessFan: I'm guessing White has a very high historical win % when playing Nxc6+ and the Knight can't be captured.
Feb-06-12  King Death: <OCF> Probably even better than the lucky souls that get to play NN.
Feb-06-12  Penguincw: The pun probably has to due with the result last night. :-\
Feb-06-12  LoveThatJoker: <sleepyirv> :)

LTJ

Feb-06-12
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  kevin86: Love the pun! AND Morphy's Smothered Mate.
Feb-06-12
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  YouRang: Now THAT's an impressive pun. It fits the names of the players, the outcome of the the chess game, and the outcome of the Super Bowl football game, all at once.

The only flaw: In the football game, the Patriots at least had a chance...

Feb-06-12  BlackSheep: I love Morphy's games he was so far ahead of his contemporaries I think he should be considered to be the best player who has ever lived (not everyones opinion obviously) , but every chess player alive today and of the future is (will be) standing on his shoulders as everything we see came straight from his brain and his brain alone not through libraries of information collected by hundreds of players over many , many decades which is the case for all players since Paul "The Master" Morphy .
Feb-06-12  rapidcitychess: Excellent pun, not to mention a great game. ^^
Feb-06-12
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  Marmot PFL: And then there is the woman's view- <You have to catch the ball when you're supposed to catch the ball. My husband cannot [expletive] throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time. I can't believe they dropped the ball so many times.>
Feb-06-12  Petrosianic: A great example of how sports builds character. Although I hear she went off because of fans taunting her from the stands (which is another example of the same thing, going after somebody's wife like that).

On the other hand, nobody died. It's not like it was a soccer game or anything.

Feb-06-12  ninja warrior: A popularly held theory about Paul Morphy is that if he returned to the chess world today and played our best contemporary players, he would come out the loser. Nothing is further from the truth. In a set match, Morphy would beat anybody alive today ... - Bobby Fischer
Feb-06-12  ninja warrior: In general there is something puzzling about the fact that the most renowned figures in chess - Morphy, Pillsbury, Capablanca and Fischer - were born in America.

~ Garry Kasparov

Feb-06-12  drnooo: If Morphy has a decent sports counterpart, for me, it's always been Bobby Jones. It's always a guess just how Jones would have fared over the long haul: but his Grand Slam in golf, his remaining an amateur, those who still claim him as the best ever. At 14 he could drive the ball 250 yards, hardly the bullet ball they have these days: nor with the current clubs: a true genius that beat everybody on the planet, then retired from competition...and became a lawyer. Like Morphy. Except of course with Morphy, his lawyer-dome was an utter failure.
Feb-06-12  Rook e2: <BlackSheep: I love Morphy's games he was so far ahead of his contemporaries I think he should be considered to be the best player who has ever lived (not everyones opinion obviously)> I really love his games too, but doubt he would beat Steinitz to begin with.

<ninja warrior: In general there is something puzzling about the fact that the most renowned figures in chess - Morphy, Pillsbury, Capablanca and Fischer - were born in America. ~ Garry Kasparov>

Now there are two ways to interperate that. Hope you see the second.

Feb-06-12  goodevans: <ninja warrior> I'm dubious about Garry's grasp of geography (or history). Capablanca was born in Cuba.

Now I know that Cuba has had a complicated history which included being a dependency of the US for a while, but as far as I can tell Capablanca was born there when Cuba was still Spanish.

Also, I'm not sure what Steinitz and Alekhine would have thought of being omitted from that list.

Feb-06-12
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  Shams: <I'm dubious about Garry's grasp of geography (or history). Capablanca was born in Cuba.>

Well, he meant "The Americas". By comparison to his ideas about history (to which you allude) this is Gazza being precise, no?

His compliment to Pillsbury is what sticks out the most.

Feb-06-12  BlackSheep: <Rook e2> Well since we are using opinions here its hard to use facts but a little indicator that can surely be looked at is their respective records against Adolf Andersson , Steinitz has a record of 11 wins and 11 losses whilst Morphy has a record of 12 wins and 3 losses . Now I know this is not conclusive evidence but Morphy only stood to get stronger if he pursued a career in chess and as <ninja warrior> has already pointed out Fischer also held the opinion that Morphy would have "beat anyone alive today" in his era , so I think he included Steinitz right there and his opinion is probably more valid than either mine or yours .
Feb-06-12
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  lionel15: I too love to play through Morphy's games.
Feb-06-12  AVRO38: <goodevans><I'm dubious about Garry's grasp of geography (or history). Capablanca was born in Cuba.>

Cuba is part of America. Garry never said "United States of America." Looks like you are the one who needs to brush up on geography and not be so quick to judge others.

<BlackSheep><Well since we are using opinions here its hard to use facts but a little indicator that can surely be looked at is their respective records against Adolf Andersson , Steinitz has a record of 11 wins and 11 losses whilst Morphy has a record of 12 wins and 3 losses .>

I'd also add their matches against Bird. Steinitz-Bird match 9.5 - 7.5, Morphy-Bird match 10.5 - 1.5. Bottom line is Morphy would blow Steinitz out of the water.

<A popularly held theory about Paul Morphy is that if he returned to the chess world today and played our best contemporary players, he would come out the loser. Nothing is further from the truth. In a set match, Morphy would beat anybody alive today ... - Bobby Fischer>

I agree 100%.

Feb-06-12  Tigranny: Giants win Super Bowl XLVI!
Feb-06-12
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  Chess for life: Shouldn't this be "Giant beats Patriot"?
Feb-06-12  BraveUlysses: Delightful game and a well-timed, clever pun.

Morphy is one of those players whose games it is always a delight to play through. You can feel his incisive, witty and lethal mind at work. It is so cool that we can all enjoy his brilliance after all this time.

If born at any time, I would contend he would be at the very top of the tree, assuming he could be bothered etc. His native genius places him as one of the half-dozen or so argued-about chess gods right at the rarefied summit of chessdom. (Most will agree about Kasparov, Fischer and Capa before the debate gets more heated)

Feb-07-12
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  FSR: <Shams: ... His compliment to Pillsbury is what sticks out the most.>

Indeed. Very august company. If poor Pillsbury hadn't gotten syphilis from a hooker in St. Petersburg he might well have been world champion.

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