|Jul-24-03|| ||ksadler: <Ron> Here's another one for your queen-sacs file! |
|Dec-15-04|| ||thesonicvision: why can't black play Nxd4? |
|Dec-15-04|| ||beenthere240: this way of handling the vienna gambit (Bxg1 followed by Q-h4+) is a pretty good way to lose in a spectacular fashion. |
|Feb-04-05|| ||thesonicvision: please...this is hurting my head.
starting from move 10, black
resists capturing d4.
|Apr-06-05|| ||chess man: Enjoyable game. |
|Jan-01-06|| ||itz2000: Great GAME|
|May-28-06|| ||sneaky pete: <thesonicvision> Does your head still hurt? Haven't you wondered why after 15... Na5 16.Qxa8 .. is not played? More headaches.|
The game stems from a handwritten manuscript kept by a Viennese chess amateur that turned up in 1923. Bachmann published the early (1859/1860) Steinitz games from this manuscript in the second edition of the first volume of his Schachmeister Steinitz.
The present game is given with the moves 2... Sb8-c6 and 15... Sb8-a6!
For use in this database this last - impossible - move is presented as .. Nc6-a5, but black actually played the unconventional move 2... c6 (misread as .. Nc6 by Bachmann) and 15... Na6, so .. Nxd4 was never a possiblity.
|Jan-05-12|| ||thomastonk: Is the author's name of the manuscript known? And what happend to that ms?|
|Jan-05-12|| ||sneaky pete: <thomastonk> The author was the Viennese player Joseph Rumler. The manuscript was later part of the collection of Dr. Joseph Lerch from Friedland (Germany), who died in 1923 and donated his chess library to the "Deutsche Schachverband in der Tschecho-Slowakei" (German Chess Federation in Chechoslovakia). I don't know what happened with that "Schachverband" and the manuscript during and after the Second World War.|
|Jan-06-12|| ||thomastonk: <sneaky pete> Thank you for the very interesting reply. I know a man named Rümmler, who was 1859/60 secretary and archivist of the Wiener Schachgesellschaft, and probably this is the same man. |
Some games of the tournament have been published in 1860, but with incomplete names. I try to find out the name of one player, whose name is given as Oberst W***r (Colonel W***r). The only player's name in Vienna fitting to this pattern I know is Weinbrenner, who played there at least from 1855 to 1869. But I don't know whether he was a Oberst/Colonel, and hence there remain some doubts. Do you know something about this name?
|Dec-31-13|| ||RedShield: <Old Lang Resigns>|
|Mar-08-15|| ||sachistu: <sneaky pete> Deutsches Wochenschach, 1925,p18 has the correct score (using the moves you pointed out) e.g ...c6 and later ...Na6. Has someone initiated a correction slip?|
|May-25-17|| ||mifralu: < thomastonk: Is the author's name of the manuscript known? And what happend to that ms?>
See ==> http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/a...|