| Nov-22-02 |
| ughaibu: Max Lange plays the Muzio Gambit. Strange ending, Lange could have mated by 17. Rf5 whereas the line he chose seems to allow a defense by 18. h5 or 18. Rg8. |
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| Dec-08-02 |
| pawntificator: Before the game Max Lange said that we would deliver checkmate with his Queen's Knight. |
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| Mar-10-04 |
| capanegra: Yes, Max Lange played this game with his Queen Knight capped, that’s why he didn’t play 17.Rf5+. This is the only example I know with this rare stipulation. However, Black could have won if he played 13…Qg5+!!! winning a Rook, and therefore the game. Of course, this is very difficult to see when you are influenced by conventional paradigms. |
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| Mar-10-04 |
| TrueFiendish: "Pion Coiffe" is the capped pawn method (spelling may be wrong), whereby you cap a pawn and then mate with it, any other outcome being a loss. They say such a stipulation is roughly equal to queen odds--the pawn must be guarded as jealously as the king. |
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| Sep-30-04 |
| Jitendra Rankhame: when white played 18) RF5 at this time black could have won if he played 18)...Qxe4+!!! and take the rook, & wins the game. |
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| Apr-13-05 |
| caballos2: @capanegra: I don't think 13...Qg5 is quite winning. |
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| Apr-13-05 |
| ughaibu: Capanegra: Brilliant idea, lovely way to win. |
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Apr-13-05
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| Karpova: <capanegra> what about 13...qg5+ 14.qg5:+ ? where's the winning line for black? |
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| Apr-13-05 |
| psmith: <karpova> The point is that 14 Qg5 is mate but NOT WITH THE CAPPED KNIGHT, so black wins by the stipulation that white wins only by mating with the capped knight, and loses on any other outcome. |
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| Apr-13-05 |
| RisingChamp: That idea wouldnt have won the game-this wasnt at all the stipulation."white undertakes to give mate with his queens knight" that means it is the only piece which can mate.Failing which if he doesnt lose the outcome would of course be a draw. |
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| Apr-13-05 |
| ughaibu: Your authority for this bold and confidently asserted statement? |
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| Apr-13-05 |
| Eatman: Instead of 18. ... h6?? Black had 18. ... Qxe4+! and on 19. Nxe4 Kxf5 with easy win for black. |
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Aug-11-05
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| kevin86: How about this pseudo-fool's mate with a capped f-pawn.
1 e4 g5 2 Qh5-winning the capped pawn on move two. |
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| Aug-28-08 |
| GrahamClayton: According the Edward Winter, this game was actually played 12 years earlier in October 1856 between Lange and an unnamed opponent. What was unusual was that Black made no attempt to attack or exchange the White knight. It may be that the identity of the capped piece may have been sealed in an envelope and therefore unknown to the odds receiver. "Kings, Commoners and Knaves", page 114-115. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| GrahamClayton: Source: CN 2162 Edward Winter, "Kings, Commoners & Knaves", Russell Enterprises, 1999 |
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sac: 6.O-O