Apr-10-03
 | | chessgames.com: Isidor Gunsberg is generally believed to be the brains behind the "automaton" called Mephisto. |
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| Aug-28-04 | | Whitehat1963: Did Mephisto ever play The Turk? |
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| Jul-12-05 | | InitiativeCheck: Cool name for a chess computer. |
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| Jul-12-05 | | Autoreparaturwerkbau: Chess computer in the year 1883? England must have been way ahead in science against the rest of the world! |
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| Jul-12-05 | | crumpy: <Whitehat1963> No it didn't play The Turk. In fact, it only played three people. They are: 1. Mephisto vs Beardswell
2. Mephisto vs Marriott
3. Mephisto vs Chigorin
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| Jul-12-05 | | farrooj: What is this variation called? |
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Jul-12-05
 | | jamesmaskell: Just checking my CM 10th Edition... The Greco Gambit (3. f4). Prior to that its plain old Vienna. |
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| Jul-12-05 | | farrooj: this must be a transposition of the king's gambit no? |
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Jul-12-05
| | jamesmaskell: I would guess it is...the computer doesnt identify it as transposed though. It just says Greco. |
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| Jul-12-05 | | zarra: It's not a transposition. The idea in the Vienna Game is that 2.Nc3 doesn't block the f-pawn so that it can be pushed out later as in the King's Gambit. |
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| Jul-12-05 | | Knight13: Gunsberg, huh. Gunsberg beats Chigorin!? Jeesh. Unbelievable, man. I though Chigorin was stronger than Gunsberg. "Mind-trick?"...... Nahh. |
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| Jul-12-05 | | Knight13: *Mikhail Chigorin beat Isidor Gunsberg 13 to 10, with 5 draws.* So Gunsberg beating Chigorin ain't that impressive, huh. |
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| Jul-12-05 | | catfriend: Also, I think Chigorin didn't really believe the "weird contraption" can make him work hard, so perhaps he didn't play at full strength. |
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Jul-12-05
 | | OhioChessFan: 23.............Re8????? |
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Jul-12-05
 | | patzer2: Here's an analysis, using the Opening Explorer and Fritz 8: <1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 exf4 4. Nf3 g5 5. h4 g4 6. Ng5 h6?!> Better is 6...d6  with advantage to Black as in R Forster vs Z Almasi, 1995, S Swanson vs C Kennaugh, 1995,
A Brenke vs T Halasz, 1990 or R Fleming vs Steinitz, 1893. In fact, Black has won all Master level games in which 6...d6! was played in this position per the ChessGames.com Opening Explorer.
<7. Nxf7 Kxf7 8. d4?!>
Better is 8. Bc4+  . <8...f3?!> Instead, Black should play 8...d6! 9. Bxf4 Nf6  with a winning advantage. <9. gxf3 Be7 10. Bc4+ Kg7 11. Be3 Bxh4+ 12. Kd2 d5?!> This opens it up a bit too much. Better is 12...d6 , maintaining a Black advantage. <13. exd5> Relatively better is 13. Bxd5  . <13...Na5 14. Bd3 Be7?! 15. fxg4 Nf6 16.
Bxh6+ Rxh6 17. g5 Rxh1 18. Qxh1 Qh8 ?!> This gives White too much of an advantage.
Instead, Black should play 18... Nc4+ 19. Bxc4 Ng4 20. Ne4 b5 21. g6 Kxg6
22. Bd3 Bf5  with only a slight White advantage. <19. gxf6+ Bxf6 20. Rg1+ Kf7 21. Qe4 Qh6+ 22. Kd1 Bd7 23. b4> Attacking and winning the trapped Knight. <23...Re8> Apparently, no help is 23...Rg8 24. Rh1 Qg5 25. bxa5 Qg3 26. a6 b6 27. Rf1 Qg5 28. Qe5  <24. Qg6+> With this blow, Black is clearly lost. <24...Qxg6 25. Bxg6+ Kf8 26. Bxe8 Bxe8 27. Rf1 Ke7 28. d6+ cxd6 29. Nd5+ Kd8 30. Nxf6 1-0> |
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Jul-12-05
| | patzer2: If White tries to save the trapped Knight with 22...b6, he gets mated after 23. b4! Nb7 24. d6 cxd6 25. Bc4+ d5 26. Bxd5+ Be6 27. Qxe6+ Kf8 28. Rg8# |
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| Jul-28-10 | | TheTamale: LOL... If I'm Chigorin, I don't go near this thing. If I lose, I lose to a mechanical box. If I win, well... then I just beat a mechanical box. Lose/lose. |
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sac: 7.Nxf7