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Juan Corzo vs Jose Raul Capablanca
"Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader?" (game of the day Dec-13-07)
Capablanca - Corzo (1901)  ·  Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Hamppe-Allgaier-Thorold Gambit (C25)  ·  0-1
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Dec-08-11
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  Shams: <Jimfromprovidence>'s 14.b4 Bxb4 15.Be3! is an amazing counterpoint of a move:


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Black has gone in "head first" on the critical diagonal: Queen, then bishop to follow giving mate. Yet White defends by the same mechanism-- Qd4, then Be3 following to defang the diagonal. Very aesthetic.

Dec-08-11  King Death: <Shams> In <Jim>'s notes, he credits <LeSwamp> with this from back in 2005.

Even in the position after 15.Be3, I think Black can play 15...fe 16.Qh8 Bf8. It's not easy for White to get untangled here, and Black has lots of play. If his queenside pieces come out, the white king is in big trouble.

Dec-27-11  AlphaMale: Total game time in this home-cooked Cuban crush were 40 minutes for Corzo and 5 minutes for Capa!
Dec-28-11  visayanbraindoctor: <AlphaMale: 40 minutes for Corzo and 5 minutes for Capa!>

Even spending 2 hours, this is an impossible game for a 12 to 13 year old kid to play. It's one of the messiest early middlegames I have ever seen, bizarre positions abound both on the board and on analysis; yet black breezes through the game playing almost like a computer.

I doubt if a 12 yo kid could spend only 5 minutes for the whole game, even if his name is Capablanca. Could I ask your source?

Dec-28-11
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  TheFocus: <visayanbraindoctor> Here are the times for all the games in the Capablanca - Corzo match.

The times are from <The Unknown Capablanca> by Hooper & Brandreth. Originally from British Chess Magazine.

1 Capablanca – Corzo (0:40 – 0:20)
2 Corzo – Capablanca (0:17 – 0:17)
3 Capablanca – Corzo (0:38 – 1:15)
4 Corzo – Capablanca No times given.
5 Capablanca – Corzo (0:45 – 1:10)
6 Corzo – Capablanca (0:21 – 0:10)
7 Capablanca – Corzo (0:20 – 0:40)
8 Corzo – Capablanca (0:40 – 0:05)
9 Capablanca – Corzo (0:24 – 0:43)
10 Corzo – Capablanca (0:55 – 0:35)
11 Capablanca – Corzo (0:42 – 1:35)
12 Corzo – Capablanca (1:02 – 0:19)
13 Capablanca – Corzo (0:28 – 0:40)

Dec-28-11  King Death: < visayanbraindoctor:
I doubt if a 12 yo kid could spend only 5 minutes for the whole game, even if his name is Capablanca...>

< TheFocus: <visayanbraindoctor> Here are the times for all the games in the Capablanca - Corzo match...

8 Corzo – Capablanca (0:40 – 0:05)>

I doubt that I could come up with this in 5 hours. 5 minutes? Un frigging believable.

Dec-28-11
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  TheFocus: In the five minute game, Capablanca came to the board with a prepared variation.
Dec-28-11
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  TheFocus: Prior to the match with Juan Corzo, Capablanca played a match series against the strongest players in Cuba. His times were impressive in them also. From <The Unknown Capablanca>.

1 Capablanca – Delmonte (0:08 – 0:31)
2 Paredes – Capablanca (0:40 – 0:12)
3 Capablanca – Corzo, E. (0:10 – 0:45)
4 Capablanca – Fiol (0:20 – 0:25)
5 Corzo, J. – Capablanca (0:50 – 0:25)
6 Gavilan – Capablanca (0:20 – 0:12)
7 Ettlinger – Capablanca (1:42 – 0:26)
8 Capablanca – Marceau (0:12 – 0:40)
9 Sterling – Capablanca (1:05 – 0:16)
10 Capablanca – Blanco, J. (0:15 – 0:45)
11 Delmonte – Capablanca (1:15 – 0:20)
12 Capablanca – Paredes (0:12 – 0:30)
13 Corzo, E. – Capablanca (0:52 – 0:20)
14 Capablanca – Corzo, J. No times given.
15 Fiol – Capablanca (0:18 – 0:12)
16 Capablanca – Gavilan No times given.
17 Capablanca – Sterling (0:09 – 0:20)
18 Blanco, J. – Capablanca (1:20 – 0:38)

Dec-28-11  AlphaMale: <The times are from <The Unknown Capablanca> by Hooper & Brandreth. Originally from British Chess Magazine.>

Originally from <El Diario de la Marina>: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Dia...

Given that 13...Qb6 was a prepared novelty and the tactical sequence that follows is entirely logical, I think it could be safely vouched that Capa needed to do practically no thinking at the board beyond checking his variations. As can be seen from the game times in the other Corzo match games and others from this period, Capa was an extremely rapid player which undoubtedly accounts for many of the mistakes that litter them.

Dec-28-11
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  TheFocus: <AlphaMale> <Originally from <El Diario de la Marina>:>

I believe that you would be correct. I am sure that BCM lists the original source, but I did not put it in my database and I don't have my library at hand.

Dec-28-11
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  TheFocus: Regarding the match series, another source would be:

<He seems to play by instinct…While his opponents take five or ten minutes over a move, Capablanca plays instantaneously, and his moves are to be counted not in minutes but in seconds – El Figaro, October 6, 1901.>

Dec-28-11
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  TheFocus: Capablanca first mentioned in British Chess Magazine:

<We much regret that we were misled by a paragraph in some contemporary magazine or chess column as to the present condition of the Havana Club, which led to our statement that it is now a small one; that is all we said. The editor of Ambos Mundos, however, controverts this, and reproaches us with representing the club as an insignificant one, which we did not say. It is natural to believe that the loss of three of its most prominent players, as well as the late Cuban war, would have an effect on the club in lessening its members; but we are very glad to find that this is not the case, and that in Senores Ponce, Paredes, Gavilan, Delmonte, Fiol, and the brothers Corzo, not to speak of the boy prodigy Capablanca, the club possesses still so many matadors of the first rank – British Chess Magazine, November 1901, pg 448 – 449.>

Mar-10-12
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  Beancounter: My favourite Capablanca game. The clarity, accuracy and force displayed by the 11 year old is simply staggering.
Sep-04-12  LoveThatJoker: What a tremendous game from the budding 3rd WC!

I wonder what kind of impression this game made on WC Petrosian the first time he saw it.

LTJ

Dec-13-12  Wyatt Gwyon: 5 minutes of clock time. Just insane.
Dec-21-12  senojes: As a Capablanca admirer (I consider him to be the greatest chess player ever), nevertheless I feel I should point out:

1) Capablanca was not 12 when this game was played but he had just turned 13 (born 19 Nov 1888, game played 6 Dec 1901);

2) As Capablanca wrote in his "My Chess Career," much of the game was a prepared variation by him:

"We had played this variation in a previous game, and Corzo had answered B-K2 [10.Be2] to this check [9...Qe7+]. The game ended in a draw, but I should have won. Corzo analyzed the position and told someone that he should have played K-B2 [10.Kf2]. When I heard this I analyzed the situation myself and decided to play it again, as I thought that Black should win with the continuation which I put in practice in this game."

However, having said that, I consider it likely that even if Capablanca had not prepared this line at home, when the position arose again over the board he would have played his improvement: 9...Qe7+, 10.Kf2 g3+, 11.Kg1 Nxd4!, 12.Qxd4 Qc5; 13.Ne2 Qb6!

And given Capablanca's normal speed of play, he probably wouldn't have taken much longer than 5 minutes, given that once he embarked on the game continuation, most of the moves would have been obvious to him (Corzo himself only spent 40 minutes on the game).

Stephen E. Jones
Western Australia

Jan-08-13
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  notyetagm: J Corzo vs Capablanca, 1901


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19 ... Ng8-f6 <interpose: b2-h8@f6+f7>


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Jan-08-13
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  notyetagm: J Corzo vs Capablanca, 1901

Game Collection: INTERPOSE! INTERPOSE! INTERPOSE! INTERPOSE! 19 .. Ng8-f6 meets threat of Bc1-b2 skewer by shielding h8-rook

Nov-28-13
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  Check It Out: So far I can still beat all the fifth graders in the dojo chess club. So far...
Dec-31-13
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  offramp: Capablanca's 13th game at <chessgames.com>. A cuban prime.
Mar-05-14  shepi13: No one has mentioned that 14. b4! Bxb4 15. Be3! fxe3 16. Qxh8 Bf8! 17. Qe5 Bd6! still gives black an enormous initiative for the exchange, and he is probably still winning, but I will agree that this was white's best chance.
Mar-05-14
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  perfidious: <shepi13> Not true-this has noted by several posters on this page, going back to 2005.
Mar-05-14  visayanbraindoctor: <Wyatt Gwyon: 5 minutes of clock time. Just insane.>

<King Death: I doubt that I could come up with this in 5 hours. 5 minutes? Un frigging believable.>

This game never fails to astonish me everytime I play through it. If it had not been documented I would never believe a 12 to 13 year old had completed it in 5 minutes. Even if his name is Capablanca and he had prepped the opening.

<TheFocus: <visayanbraindoctor> Here are the times for all the games in the Capablanca - Corzo match.

The times are from <The Unknown Capablanca> by Hooper & Brandreth. Originally from British Chess Magazine.

1 Capablanca – Corzo (0:40 – 0:20)
2 Corzo – Capablanca (0:17 – 0:17)
3 Capablanca – Corzo (0:38 – 1:15)
4 Corzo – Capablanca No times given.
5 Capablanca – Corzo (0:45 – 1:10)
6 Corzo – Capablanca (0:21 – 0:10)
7 Capablanca – Corzo (0:20 – 0:40)
8 Corzo – Capablanca (0:40 – 0:05)
9 Capablanca – Corzo (0:24 – 0:43)
10 Corzo – Capablanca (0:55 – 0:35)
11 Capablanca – Corzo (0:42 – 1:35)
12 Corzo – Capablanca (1:02 – 0:19)
13 Capablanca – Corzo (0:28 – 0:40)>

Note game 11 above. Capablanca vs J Corzo, 1901

This 12 to 13 year old played a kind of game that even a super GM would be proud of; and more than that he sacked his Queen in a complicated middlegame and proceeded to play a freakishly precise 60 move ending, all in a freakishly unbelievable 42 minutes. That's less than a minute per move. How can any one play that well that fast? And this a mere kid?

Capablanca would be an unbeatable beast in the World Cup tiebreak quick games and the World Blitz championships.

Mar-05-14
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  perfidious: <visayan> There was always Alekhine's testimony, a man who could play a little himself:

Jose Raul Capablanca

< "His real, incomparable gifts first began to make themselves known at the time of St. Petersburg, 1914, when I too came to know him personally. Neither before or afterwards have I seen, nor can I imagine as well such a flabbergasting quickness of chess comprehension as that possessed by the Capablanca of that epoch.">

http://www.chess.com/article/view/t...

May-01-14  capabull: Hello everybody, obviously as the user name suggests, I'm a Capablanca fan. It actually came from capable. If one is CAPAble of producing good chess, ... Moreover, Redbull-gives you wings-Capabull (develop the hints). Well, one can't play like him. He was gifted. This game is an example, but one can take something from him. And thanks chessgames.com. Watching his games is such a pleasure.
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