|Aug-02-05|| ||chancho: Tartakower never relinquishes the initiative in this game, and the sacrifices are spectacular.The Queen simply proves to be better that the two rooks in this game.|
|Aug-02-05|| ||chancho: 19 R1 e3 threatening Rxf6+! 19....Qd7 20 Qf5 now he threatens Rxf6+ winning the Queen on d7.|
|Mar-10-14|| ||Karpova: This game was played in the 10th round of the Trebitsch Memorial, according to Dr. Emanuel Lasker (Berlin, April 18), see page 10 of the 'Pester Lloyd' of 1913.04.20 for his annotations.|
|Apr-01-17|| ||Stonehenge: Wasn't it the Viennese CC Jubilee?
Trebitsch was played in November / December:
|Apr-01-17|| ||Retireborn: I certainly have this game being played in March and my source would have been Tartakower's own collection of games.|
Is there any more information about the CC Jubilee? This page says that Spielmann won it on June 24, but if it was a club tournament it may have been played over several months, I suppose.
|Apr-01-17|| ||Stonehenge: I guess it was this tournament (March / April):|
|Apr-01-17|| ||Retireborn: <Stonehenge> Thanks, very useful.|
|Jul-24-18|| ||sachistu: <Retireborn> you can find extensive round-by-round coverage of the Vienna CC Jubilee that started in March 17th and ended April 7th in Wiener Schachzeitung, 1913, pages 26, 89, and 92. The remarks from <Stonehenge> are correct.|
Clearly, this was not from the Trebitsch memorial, which started on the 18th of November and ended on the 23rd of December. More so as Perlis did not play in the Trebitsch memorial that year.
Casopis Ceskych Sachistu 1913 p.60-62 has the Reti-Perlis and Tartakower-Perlis and Perlis-Tartakower games. It lists the Tartakower-Perlis game as being played on March 31st. Oddly, though, CCS mistakenly identifies the event as the Trebitsch memorial.
|Jul-25-18|| ||Retireborn: <sachistu> Many thanks for that. I was able to find the Casopis pages you reference, and have gratefully added the two extra Perlis games to my collection of annotated games. The Reti game with its 19th century opening is quite amusing!|
|Jul-27-18|| ||sachistu: <Retireborn> Wall (chessmaniac) does not give the source of his information, but the date of June 24th is clearly incorrect. Based on the 1-3 leaders he mentioned, he had to be referring to the Vienna Chess Club Jubilee tournament.|
Regarding the Reti-Perlis game...you may have noticed the first 14 moves were the topic of analysis by Mlotkowski in the 1916 volume of the British Chess Magazine. Mlotkowski analyzed 14.Ne2 instead of 14.Qd3, giving 14...Qb5 as Black's answer. A BCM reader pointed out in a subsequent issue that Black had a much stronger reply in 14...Ba5+.
As you no doubt saw, CCS showed another alternative (14.f3) loses to 14...Qe3+. And, yes, it was an amusing game, especially as Perlis put his Rook and Queen (and then the other Rook) on the line of the White Queen Bishop, but Reti could not take either. Well, actually, he did take one of the Rooks, but that was a mistake. And, of course, he could not take the other Rook (on d8) because of mate.
|Jul-27-18|| ||Retireborn: <sachistu> I'm afraid I've never seen the 1916 BCM that you mention.|
I do have Chessbase data which shows me that with 13.Bg3? Reti was deviating from a game which was already 50 years old then:-
Steinitz vs Dubois, 1862
Examples with 6.Nxe5 are pretty rare in the 20th Century.
|Jul-27-18|| ||sachistu: I have a copy <Retireborn>, but you can find an online copy on the Chess Archeology site chessarch.com.|
By the way, the March 31 date for the Tartakower-Perlis game is also given in Deutsche Schachzeitung 1913 p.136.
The Reti-Perlis game is also given in DSz 1913 (p.134). They mention the same alternative (14.f3) that was given in Casopis Ceskych Sachistu.
ECO still points to the Reti-Perlis game and does not mention 13.Qf3 (Steinitz-Dubois). Harding's book (The Italian Game) gives 12. Nd2 (instead of 12.Nc3). Harding then gives 12...Qxg3 13.Qh5 Qg6 14.Qh4 intending 0-0-0 and f4 when White has very good chances (according to Harding). I do not know the latest theory, so all of this may have been superseded by newer analysis.
|Jul-28-18|| ||Retireborn: <sachistu> Thanks again. I have visited the Archeology site before, but unfortunately I'm unable to read much on there (because of British copyright laws.)|
The Harding line you give looks good; 12.Nd2 which prevents ...Nc4 seems clearly better than 12.Nc3.
I doubt that there is any newer analysis; judging by Informator, the moderns prefer 5.a4 to 5.b5 & 6.Nxe5.
Thanks again for your help.
|Jul-28-18|| ||sachistu: That's unfortunate <Retireborn>. I agree there is probably nothing new in this line, but you never know. As you point out, 5.a4 is the preferred move. 5.b5 seems to have pretty much disappeared after 1913 (because of that game?). I could only find about a dozen or so examples, and several of those tried 6.Be2 or 6.Bxf7+. |
Whitaker tried the Reti line in the 1930 cable match between England and USA. Thomas played 11...Bg4 instead of the recommended move (11...Qg5). Tartakower (500 Master Games of Chess) considers that move a crucial moment, although he agrees 11...Qg5 is best. Whitaker had the advantage, but went wrong and Thomas won. I think this is the last game I have in my database with this particular line.
If you need/want to pursue the analysis in BCM, you can send contact info to my profile, and I'll send you scans of the relevant pages.
|Jul-30-18|| ||Retireborn: <sachistu> Very kind of you, but with your 12.Nd2 variation I have enough analysis of Ret-Perlis to satisfy me.|
I have the Whitaker-Thomas game too; I used to own Tarta's 500 and Tarta's two-volume collection of his own games. I think nearly every game from those is in my database now.
|Jul-31-18|| ||sachistu: <Retireborn> Great! I think we've beaten this horse to death now.|
|May-01-19|| ||Sally Simpson: ***
< Great! I think we've beaten this horse to death now.>
Good. Now we can look at the actual game.
Here Black to play
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Perlis played 10...Bd7 covering the c6 pawn, but it is being held tactically if Black plays the better and annoying (for Tartakower) 10...Bc4 which prevents castling.
Should White then nick the c6 pawn thinking the Queens are coming off so being unable to castle may not be an issue then we see the trick.
The Queens do indeed come off, but so does a White piece.
10...Bc4 11.Nxc6 Qd5!
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12.Qxd5 Bxd5 the Rook and Knight are caught in a holy fork.
Note that 11...Qxd1+ and 12...Bd5 does not work. 12. Kxd1 and e1 is vacant for a Rook check to get out of the fork.
Tartakower makes no mention of 10...Bc4 in his Best Games book but we forgive him and due to some of the artistry that followed we forgive Perlis as well for not playing it.
What we won't forgive is if a lazy kibitzer happens along. You know the type. They call Kasparov Kaspy, Karpov Karpy etc.
If they kibitz here with Tarty and Perly then I'll sweary at them.