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John James O'Hanlon vs Hubert Ernest Price
"The Price is Right" (game of the day Sep-27-2012)
Edinburgh op (1919)
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Main Line (C29)  ·  0-1


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Sep-27-12  LoveThatJoker: An enjoyable game to play through: A worthy GOTD!


Sep-27-12  Abdel Irada: White's loose and underdeveloped position simply didn't support the aggressive 12. ♗xd5?, as the course of this game (nearly forced from this point) leaves in no doubt.

Although he already stood worse, White might have gotten a more playable game with the safer, saner 12. ♕e2.

Sep-27-12  sofouuk: <Abdel Irada: White's loose and underdeveloped position simply didn't support the aggressive 12.Bxd5?, as the course of this game (nearly forced from this point) leaves in no doubt.>not true - the losing move was 16 Kf1??

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if instead white blocks the check with 16 Be3, rybka says 0.00: 16...Ncd4 17.c3 Qf5+ 18.Kg2 Qe4+ 19.Kf2

Sep-27-12  LoveThatJoker: <Abdel Irada> In regards to 12. Qe2, Stockfish likes 12...Ne6 (-1.97/Depth of 20)

Analysis Diagram - Position after 12. Qe2 Ne6

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13. Be3 Qb4 14. O-O d4 15. a3 Qb6 16. Bf2 Qxb2 17. Na4 d3 18. Nxb2 dxe2 19. Bxe2 Rd2 20. Bd3 Nxe5

It should be noted that Stockfish states that 12. Qe2 Bd6 is crushed by 13. Bg4+!:

Analysis Diagram - Position after 12. Qe2 Bd6 13. Bg4+!

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13...Kb8 14. exd6 Rde8 15. dxc7+ Ka8 16. c8=Q+ Rxc8 17. Bxc8


Sep-27-12  Abdel Irada: Hmm. I had thought that after 16. ♗e3, ♘cd4; 17. c3, ♘g5 would lead to a win, but on further examination it appears Rybka is right: 18. ♗xd4 leaves Black with nothing better than a perpetual.

Back to the drawing-board. ;-S

Sep-27-12  sfm: A very nice game, against a strong player.

<Abdel Irada: White's loose and underdeveloped position simply didn't support the aggressive 12. Bxd5?> To make the statement right, we just have to add "... with the defense he was able to find over the board". The result of a chess game is all about the player being able to handle the positions he create for himself. At times, making the strongest move is a big mistake, and similarly, an inferior move was the one that won the game.

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  Garech: Great attack from black. As soon as you see your opponent play Nc6 in the Vienna gambit; you have to answer Bb5. Black equalises easily if he knows the right lines, otherwise white gets a good game. Cheers,


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  Castleinthesky: White seems to make his questionable move at 12. Bxd5, as it creates an open file by which Black dominates the rest of the game. In that sense the d5 pawn is poisoned.
Sep-27-12  MATTYMONKEES: I see a lot of focus is on the twelfth move, but my untrained eye really disliked White's sixth and eighth moves. On the sixth move, he misses the opportunity to pin the Knight and gain tempo.

If you're gonna go with 6. Be2, which gridlocks your entire Queen side back rank for at least a turn, then you can't follow that with 8. d4. This is not only because of Black's subsequent moves to develop the Queen and advance it into White's territory, but also because White falls woefully behind in developing the Queen side, which eventually becomes his undoing.

Sep-27-12  scormus: Curious game, seems to defy many of the principles we got taught. <Abdel> yes, hard to believe B isn't winning after 15 Bc5+. In fact its hard to believe that didn't have an advantage after 12 Bxg5.

My engine gives 0.0 from then until before 16 Kf1? at any depth most human players would be able to calculate. On unreasonbly deep search the strange looking 12 ... g5 gives a modest adv to B. But who would play it?

There are times it's really hard to understand this game.

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  kevin86: A nice game-brutal attack by black.
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  GrahamClayton: My second pun suggestion that was chosen as GOTD!
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