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H Reinle vs NN
Murnau (1936)  ·  Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit (C26)  ·  1-0
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Oct-16-07
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  beenthere240: 10. ...Kxd6 looks better. I wonder if this game really happened.
Mar-02-11  kleuthold: If 10...Kxd6 then 11. Nxe6 and black cannot recapture without losing the queen. Black could have resigned after the blunder on move 6.
Jul-27-11  thegoldenband: The position after 11...fxe6 would make a good Tuesday puzzle.
Aug-16-11
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  Ken MacGillivray: A knowledge of Boden's mate should be a good guide to finding the forced checkmate commencing with 13. Qxc6#
Aug-16-11
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  dzechiel: White to move (13?). White is up a pawn. "Easy."

This must remind us of Boden's mate. The first two moves are similar:

13 Qxc6+ bxc6

Moving the king avoids mate, but loses a full queen after 13...Kb8 14 Nd7+ Qxd7 15 Qxd7.

14 Ba6+ Kb8

Forced.

15 Nxc6#

That white pawn on d6 sure makes the difference.

Aug-16-11  jheiner: 13.White to play. Reinle vs NN, 1936

While it's tempting to rattle of the solution quickly, let's be disciplined.

Material. N for P. White Ne5 is loose and Pd6 is hanging. Black Pe6 and Pf4 is hanging.

Position. Black has Qh4+. The White K is in the center and lacks protection. The Black Nc6 is pinned.

Candidates.

13.Nf7 could win a R for a N, but there is counterplay.

13.Qxe6+ Kb8 14.Nd7+ sets up a windmill, which is exciting, but let's keep looking.

13.Nxc6 bxc6 14.Qxc6+ Kb8 15.Ba6 and 16.Qb7# is indefensible. But seeing the Ba6 move invites other solutions.

13.Qxc6+ is the most forcing and...

If 13...bxc6 14.Ba6+ Kb8 15.Nc6#
If 13...Kb8 14.Nd7+ drops the Q.

Today's puzzle is all about "When you find a good move, look for a better one."

Aug-16-11
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  rhickma4: Almost the same as yesterday: a Q sac opens up a mating attack 13.Qxc6+ bxc6 14.Ba6+ Kb8 15.Nxc6#
Aug-16-11  zb2cr: Found this one quickly. The instructive comments from <dzechiel> and <jheiner> well repay study.
Aug-16-11
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  sevenseaman: LOL! Missed the killer Q check 13. Qxc6+. Everything except that. Looks like the onset of senescence!

One of the most valuable of 'chessy' lessons, "When you find a good move, look for a better one" went blatantly(and pompously)unheeded.

What I actually did would now be 'washing dirty linen in public'. So no alibis.

Best of luck and hope no one gets into the kind of sorry plight I did.

Nevertheless, I have to say 'an excellent puzzle' that makes up for yesterday's flat beer. Sadly not for me though - endure the thirst another day.

Aug-16-11  rilkefan: Enjoyable Tuesday for some reason - I found the mate immediately but each move was a little surprising and hence I suppose pleasurable to find.
Aug-16-11
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  M.Hassan: "Easy" White to play 13.?
White is a Bishop and a pawn ahead.

13.Qxe6+ Kb8 (Queen can not defend)
14.Ne7+ Kc8
15.Nxf8+ Kb8
16.Ne7+ Kc8
17.Nc5+ Kb8
18.Qf7 Threatening mate on b7
18.........Nge7
19.dxe7 Nxe7
20.Qxf4+
By now, White is in a big material advantage of 2Bishops+ 1 Knight+ 2 pawns

1-0
Time to check
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Different and impressive

Aug-16-11
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  sevenseaman: I missed the glamorous Q sac 13. Qxc6+ but this is what I 'actually did' today.

13. Nxc6 bxc6 (No escape from taking the N). 14. Qxc6+ Kb8only move15. Ba6 and Black K looks headed for doom here.


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I do not see any resource to preempt 16. Qb7# or Qc8# (in case of spite move 15...Qb6).

Someone has to do some very heavy analysis work to persuade me I was on a wild goose chase, entirely.

Aug-16-11
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  Infohunter: I see I'm not the only one to spot this as being similar to Boden's Mate. This is the first time I've seen a Knight substitute for the second Bishop. I suppose that, to be meticulously precise, I should mention that the mate also typically occurs on c8 instead of b8.
Aug-16-11  SimonWebbsTiger: in the spirit of pattern recognition

A Matoussi vs C Jorgensen, 2010

Aug-16-11
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  Once: The variation that time forgot...

Have you ever had this experience? You get an oh-so-rare chance to date one of two delicious specimens - a blonde or a brunette. Alter the gender to suit your situation and personal interests.

And then you think ... maybe I can have both? I'll date one first - just one night - and see if I like her/him. Then come back to the other one and try that one too. Oh, I say! <Best done in a Terry Thomas accent>.

And so ... eeny meeny miny mo ... I'll take the blonde first. Gotta start somewhere, eh?

And you have such a wonderful time, champagne and lobster, fun and frivoloty - both horizontal and vertical.

So much so that you never come back for the brunette. And you never discover just what might have been. In life we often cannot find out the consequences of the choices we did not make.

An old joke - for some elaborate reason Bill and Hillary Clinton take a taxi ride in Washington. They discover that the taxi driver was an old flame of Hillary's. Afterwards, Bill says "Gee, honey, isn't life strange? If you'd have married him, you would have been the wife of a taxi driver."

To which Hillary replied ... "No, Bill. If I'd married him, I would still have become the wife of the president of the United States..."

All of which is a long-winded way of saying that my "solution" was the windmill 13. Qxe6+ Kb8 14. Nd7+ Kc8 15. Nxf8+ Kb8 16. Nd7+ Kc8 17. Nb6+ Kb8 18. Nxa8 and white has won a whole rook.

I "parked" the tempting 13, Qxc6+ thinking "I'll come back and look at it later". Only I never did come back. I was having such a fun time with the blonde that I clean forgot about the brunette.

Waddya mean it's mate in 2? Aw, shucks...

And in case you are far too young to remember Terry Thomas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaGc...

Aug-16-11  Everyone: It is a cry in the night, a strangled laugh.
Aug-16-11  newzild: This puzzle could have started on move 11 for a Wednesday or Thursday.
Aug-16-11
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  cocker: Straightforward, but a slightly unusual mating pattern (to me at any rate).
Aug-16-11
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  morfishine: <13.Qxc6+> bxc6 14.Ba6+ Kb8 15.Nxc6#

It is pleasing the way the white knight controls <d7> before delivering the final blow.

Aug-16-11  gofer: <13 Qxe6+> starts a windmill winning Bf8 before taking Nc6 at this point we get to this position


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Black is a pawn and knight down, white has a pawn on the 6th rank. The black king can be put in a mating net by playing Ba6. Its all looking very bleak for black.

BUT, this is a <CG> puzzle position, so we simply change the move order and sac the queen to get to the required answer.

<13 Qxc6+ ...>

13 ... bxc6 14 Ba6+ Kb8 15 Nxc6#

<13 ... Kb8>
<14 Nd7+ Qxd7>
<15 Qxd7 Bxd6>
<16 Qxd6+ Kc8>


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Not as pretty as accepting the queen sacrifice, but still pretty devastating! Time to check.

Aug-16-11
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  morfishine: <sevenseaman> Despair not, I first looked at <13.Qxe6+> before thinking "There's something else here". You still found a winning line.

<Once> I love <Terry Thomas> Who could forget him in "Its a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World".

"We must press on with all possible dispatch, If I may say so"

Aug-16-11  fyad reject: my god, i examined and discarded so many different combinations of Qxc6, Nxc6, d7, and Ba6. im pretty sure i found every move order except the correct one. kill me
Aug-16-11
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  sevenseaman: The Q sac wins on the spot, the windmill wins easily, my line wins too but Crafty finds a way of prolonged resistance.

<Once> Thanks for introducing a chess zombie to the 'nasalized cockiness' of Terry Thomas. I am not too young but missed him somehow.

I am only guessing but he looks to be the kind of man who could easily have been a craze with the women of his day.

Aug-16-11
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  PhilFeeley: This must be queen sac week! Love it!

1. QxN+! bxc6 2. Ba6+ Kb8 3. Nxc6#!

Aug-16-11  FrogC: Didn't recognize this position, even though,as a Vienna gambit player.I have actually studied this line! Solved it anyway.
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