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Paul Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard
"A Night at the Opera" (game of the day Dec-02-07)
Paris 1858  ·  Philidor Defense: General (C41)  ·  1-0
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Oct-11-11  JoergWalter: Here is a wellknown game between 2 masters which I appreciate very much. Imo it is very close in spirit to this game:

Nimzowitsch vs Alapin, 1914

I just added it as <LMAJ> doesn't seem to know it as far as his comments show.

Oct-11-11  LIFE Master AJ: (This post got moved ... to make any sense, my original post - below - should follow his.)

<<I said "about."

I was referring to the famous book on tactics ... I think it is still avaialble only in Russian ... that came out in the mid-1950's.

Maybe its not perfect - but I am happy with both the analysis ... and the video.

But thanks for your comment.>>

Oct-11-11  JoergWalter: Here are a few short games from this database an accurate annotator might want to look at.

Kolisch vs Geake, 1860

D Starbuck vs NN, 1881

Karjakin vs Miguel Angel Sola Lluch, 2003

R Gralla vs S Stojanovic, 2008

A Mijovic vs D Mihajlova, 2008

Oct-12-11  AGOJ: <LMAJ: I gather that you didn't think that my video was terrible?>

No, not terrible, but I won't lie to you, it leaves lots of room for improvement. That is a professional opinion. I have been teaching, in one capacity or another, for over 30 years now. I have ample experience with private tutoring, with small classes, with large classes, and (what is relevant for this discussion), I have experience with video teaching, taping lectures for an online audience. Each of these different delivery modes require from me a different approach to how I teach. The video format in particular was (is) the hardest one for me to master. My first videos sounded as if I was teaching a very large class. My impression of your video was that you were going over a private tutoring chess session. This is normal, and part of the learning curve, so don't interpret it as a negative comment. One thing that is already positive that you have going for you is that your voice has enough inflection to convey stresses, as opposed to some cases I know where the speaker drones on and on in monotone. Don't overuse this ability, as it can become quirky and even comical.

I am making no comment on the actual content of the video here, given that I already mentioned an issue in my last post in this trend.

So, in short, no, not terrible, and I am sure you will iron out the kinks by yourself as you go on. Good luck.

Oct-12-11  LIFE Master AJ: Here is one message from a YT user: "Hi! How is it going? I like your channel very much. You've got great videos on it!"

It went on after that, and got into other topics, such as asking about chess lessons, but this was the important part of the message.

An e-mail from a former student in Mobile (AL) called it: "The best instructional video I have seen."

Oct-12-11  AnalyzeThis: As some have pointed out, Morphy might have played 15. Bxf6, inviting 15.....Qxb3 16. Bxd7 mate. The approach he used was more artistic and made this a classic for generations to come.
Oct-12-11  LIFE Master AJ: Another friend in Pensacola - he used to play tournament chess 10 (or more) years ago - said that I should point out a few things:

# 1.) He said that he has watched many of these chess videos.

# 2.) He has never seen a chess video where the author had used or shown his analysis ... he felt it was superior to other videos in this regard.

# 3.) He did not know of ANY other chess videos where the author also had a web page on the game that he could refer you to.

# 4.) He knew of NO other videos where the author allowed you to get a copy of his analysis, FREE ... or otherwise.

Oct-12-11  JoergWalter: Another great video:

http://www.onlinechesslessons.net/2...

Oct-12-11  JoergWalter: And don't tell me that my version is horrible. It took me decades to outdo Merle's play:

http://youtu.be/5pfVvqLM_e4

Oct-12-11  LIFE Master AJ: Thnak you CG for cleaning up this page.

I am sure that you often think that it is a thankless task ... however, I (for one) deeply appreciate your efforts.

Oct-12-11  AGOJ: I agree with <DrMAL>, this page should be dedicated to Morphy's game. I didn't think of it, and posted my comments about the video here. I should have posted them directly in <LMAJ>'s page. Sorry about that.
Oct-12-11  LIFE Master AJ: No reason that you cannot post comments directly on the page with the video.
Oct-12-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: < LIFE Master AJ: Another friend in Pensacola...

# 4.) He knew of NO other videos where the author allowed you to get a copy of his analysis, FREE ... or otherwise.>

But, isn't the video itself a free analysis? Why do I need two forms of analysis, free or not?

Oct-12-11  SimonWebbsTiger: when it comes to free analysis and training, there I was thinking American FM Dennis Monokroussos had done it for years....
Oct-12-11
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  WannaBe: I've actually met Mr. Dennis! Nice guy, too!!
Oct-13-11  SimonWebbsTiger: in fact, <chesscafe> has been providing free stuff for years too -- from Dan Heisman's <Novice Nook> to the hardcore stuff by Mueller or Dvoretsky. Printing out is naughty - copyright - but every one of those articles is archived. (We can thank Hanon Russell for that free website.)

Or what of chessbase; they provide GM analysis of recent games and training problems....

AJ's stuff isn't the only free stuff on the net. That's the point.

Oct-13-11  JoergWalter: <LMAJ: ... I did discover at least one new move, (no one has cited it - at least as far as I am aware of...>

He is talking about 6.Qb3 which he has given <deep positional analysis>. Unfortunately, it must be classified stuff "burn before reading" as he does give his analysis.

However, 6. Qb3 was played in:

Amsterdam vs The Hague, 1834

A Kunte vs H Fidaeyee, 2005

K Denny vs H Fidaeyee, 2006

Oct-13-11
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  chessgames.com: We just removed a large number of posts from this page, mostly for being off-topic and/or being personal attacks. How this page descended into a debate about the Petroff Defense is beyond us. We left behind a few comments which seemed to be at least superficially sincere.

There are many YouTube videos that discuss this game, and if anybody wants to share links to them here that is encouraged. However if you want to really pick apart a specific YouTube video, addressing specific details with video times and everything, please use YouTube itself.

Oct-14-11  LIFE Master AJ: Paul Morphy - Carl Isouard [C41]
Paris, 1858.
[ChessBase]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Bg4? [3...Nc6?! 4.d5 (4.Nc3 --> Olmeda-Orosso; 4.dxe5 dxe5 Ramirez-Opuama) 4...Nb4 --> Craig-Marie] 4.dxe5 Bxf3 [4...dxe5 5.Qxd8+ Kxd8 6.Nxe5 ; 4...Nd7 5.exd6 Bxd6 6.Be2 (6.Nc3 --> Frommel-Nathe) 6...Ngf6 --> Szigeti-Deak(6...Qe7 --> Rodriguez-Fernandez) ] 5.Qxf3 [5.gxf3 dxe5 6.Qxd8+ Kxd8 7.f4± Pachman] 5...dxe5 6.Bc4 Nf6? [6...Qf6 --> Sulliman-Bernschutz 7.Qb3 Bc5 8.0-0 Bb6 9.a4 a5 10.Nc3 Ne7 11.Be3 Nd7 12.Rad1f; 6...Qd7] 7.Qb3 [7.Bg5 --> Fievet-Touati] 7...Qe7T [7...Qd7 8.Qxb7 Qc6 9.Bb5] 8.Nc3! [8.Qxb7 Qb4+ 9.Qxb4 Bxb4+ 10.Bd2 ; 8.Bxf7+! Kd8 (8...Qxf7 9.Qxb7 ) 9.Qxb7 Qb4+ 10.Qxb4 Bxb4+ 11.c3 Bc5 12.Bg5 Nbd7 13.Nd2 Rf8 14.Be6 h6 15.Bxd7 hxg5 16.Bc6 Rb8 17.Nf3 Rxb2? 18.0-0-0+ 1:0 Tenk-Egert,Brno 1930] 8...c6 9.Bg5 b5? [9...Qc7] 10.Nxb5! [10.Be2 Qb4=] 10...cxb5 11.Bxb5+ Nbd7 [11...Kd8 12.0-0-0+] 12.0-0-0 Rd8 13.Rxd7! Rxd7 14.Rd1 Qe6 15.Bxd7+ [15.Qxe6+ fxe6 16.Bxf6 ] 15...Nxd7 16.Qb8+!! Nxb8 17.Rd8# 1-0

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The (old) CB analysis of this game ... its a little different than mine, if you wish to compare the two ...

(This comes from a "Mega-DB" that was first released around 2003, although they have updated it many times since then.)

Oct-14-11  LIFE Master AJ: The above does not even examine 6.Qb3. Nor does Hubner's famous analysis of this game. (And its NOT in any of my books, nor does ECO mention it.) And when I checked the DB (at the time), it came up blank. However, when I checked tonight, (the on-line DB ... NOT the one on my hard drive); it comes up with an astounding 21 matches!

Below is best example:

Neverov,Valeriy (2543) - Chahrour,Mohamad [C41]
Third Beirut Open (R#1), 17,10,2009.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Bg4 4.dxe5 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 dxe5 6.Qb3 b6 7.Bc4 Qf6 8.Nc3 Bc5 9.Be3 Bd4 10.Nd5 Qd6 11.0-0-0 c5 12.c3 Bxe3+ 13.Nxe3 Qe7 14.Bxf7+ Qxf7 15.Rd8+ Ke7 16.Nf5+ Kxd8 17.Qxf7 1-0

Oct-14-11  JoergWalter: <LMAJ> There must be a good reason why high class analysts don't even mention 6. Qb3. What does your <deep positional analysis> reveal? Provide the details, please.
Oct-14-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sneaky: 6.Qb3, hmmm, kind of interesting even though it doesn't look aesthetically pleasing. I can believe it also works, but it's hard to believe it's actually better than Morphy's move. White is clearly better--so simple development 6.Bc4, why move a piece twice and risk seeing Black equalize?

This much I know to be 100% true: <4.Bg4? - This is a weak move already.> Fischer said it, and you can take it to the bank. So discussion of what the best way to punish the patzer who plays 4.Bg4? is a tertiary opening discussion anyhow.

BTW maybe we should discuss this on the Philidor Defense (C41) page.

Oct-14-11  JoergWalter: <LMAJ> btw the variation

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Bg4? 4.dxe5 Bxf3 5.gxf3 dxe5 6.Qxd8+ Kxd8 7.f4± [Pachman] from CB

is already in Bilguer's Handbuch from 1843 and considered better than 5. Qxf3 which is recommended against weaker players.

What were your findings on 5. gxf3 - you don't mention it in your analysis. Just this:

<5. Qxf3, ('!')
Most of the time, it is bad to bring out the Queen early. But since Black's light-squared Bishop has already been exchanged off, (No ...Bg4 to worry about.); the lady is quite safe here.>

Oct-14-11  JoergWalter: <Sneaky: 6.Qb3, hmmm, kind of interesting even though it doesn't look aesthetically pleasing.>

Thanks for the link and I agree with your assessment.

6. Lc4 develops another piece threatens mate in one, can bring about another mistake 6. ... Nf6? and creates a double threat after 7. Qb3. 6. Qb3 is not so convincing imo. However, I would like to see Goldsby's arguments.

This here is mainly a discussion of Goldsby's analysis of the entire game which includes the opening.

Oct-14-11  LIFE Master AJ: <<So discussion of what the best way to punish the patzer who plays 4.Bg4? is a tertiary opening discussion anyhow.>>

I agree with this, although there was a case of the 2500 who could not defeat another player who tried this line ...

A Kunte vs H Fidaeyee, 2005.

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