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Humphrey Bogart vs NN
"The Harder They Fall" (game of the day Mar-03-2017)
USA (1933)
Indian Game: Gibbins-Weidenhagen Gambit. Maltese Falcon (A45)  ·  1-0
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Nov-16-16  ughaibu: What counts as "famous"? Was Lasker famous for his maths? Nunn for being Oxford's youngest graduate? Bloodgood for murdering his mother? etc. . . ?
Nov-17-16
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  offramp: Domdaniel, if any of Napoleon's games are genuine then he would be the chappie, because they named a brandy after him.

I don't think any of his games are genuine.

Prokofiev, Oppenheim, Chaplin - I think their games are genuine. Chaplin might have been the most famous person in the world for a while.

Einstein, Lenin, Napoleon, no.

Nov-17-16  ughaibu: Right, but "most famous" is different from "best game", I think?!
Nov-17-16
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  offramp: <ughaibu>, yes, I missed the best game part of the proposition... That changes it completely.
Nov-18-16
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  Domdaniel: <ughaibu> Mathematicians and matricides are all too prevalent.
Mar-03-17
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  offramp: What we can say is that this game has the greatest disparity of fame between one side and the other in history.

Hey! User: fredthebear! You are the biggest fan of this game, what is the origin of "Indian Game: Gibbins-Weidenhagen Gambit. Maltese Falcon"?

Mar-03-17  JohnTal: We'll always have Paris!
Mar-03-17
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  Once: <Fusilli: "Play it again, Sam" is the most famous movie line that never happened.>

Well, not quite. The line wasn't in Casablanca, but it was the title of a Woody Allen movie.

It's a bit like "Houston, we have a problem." It wasn't said exactly like that in real life ("Houston, we've had a problem"), but it was what was said in the Apollo 13 movie. People remember the later movie, not what happened first time around.

Mar-03-17
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  Robert Samuels: You're right, <offramp>. NN is probably the most famous player of all time.
Mar-03-17
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  ChessHigherCat: Since you guys are obviously not up on Tinseltown, I'll have to explain: this was Bogie's favorite chess game ever since he saw it in Boy's Life as a kid, and in his doddering old age he forced NN (Samantha Rosental, his young ex-stripper mistress) to play it again and again (Sam) every night until she sued him for attempted homicide with a blunt instrument.
Mar-03-17  Ratt Boy: <Once: <Fusilli: "Play it again, Sam" is the most famous movie line that never happened.> Well, not quite. The line wasn't in Casablanca, but it was the title of a Woody Allen movie.>

So, it was a movie title, butt not a movie line. (I don't remember the excellent Woody flick in detail, butt I'm betting it wasn't a line in the movie.)

Mar-03-17
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  moronovich: <(I don't remember the excellent Woody flick in detail,>

As times go bye...

Mar-03-17
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  moronovich: Bogart and Marlon Brando also played a lot of games with each other.
Mar-03-17
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  GerMalaz: "We have a problem" is a deformation of the original line, but it came to life way before the Apollo 13 movie.
Mar-03-17  The Kings Domain: Bogie may not have known his openings, but he sure could hustle to a win. :-)
Mar-03-17
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  HeMateMe: <Play it again, Sam" is the most famous movie line that never happened.>

Really? Dammit, I love that line. I've never sat down and watched the whole movie.

Isn't "the harder they fall" a reggae album by Jimmy Cliff? I think Mick Jagger nicked a song or two off of that album.

best ever game by a person most famous for something else? Well...perhaps in classical music none of the patrons knew much about chess but they were familiar with Mark Taimonov, and they thought he was better on the piano ivories than the chessboard ivories?

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZx...>

Mar-03-17
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  beenthere240: The point of the pawn sac at move 2 isn't realized until move 25. Is this a good game?
Mar-03-17
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  morfishine: Let me settle this, the Greatest Quote that did or didn't occur was 'Frankly My Dear, I don't give a Damn'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLn...

*****

Mar-03-17  catlover: Bogart may or may not have said the exact words, "Play it again, Sam," but he did drunkenly tell the character to keep playing the song "As Time Goes By."

Casablanca was chock full of lines that are fun to quote:

"Here's looking at you, kid."
"That was just the booze talking".
"I'm SHOCKED...SHOCKED to discover that gambling is going on in this club!" "Round up the usual suspects."

Mar-03-17
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  HeMateMe: in the film isn't the piano player in Ric's club a famous musician in real life?
Mar-03-17  dark.horse: "The Harder They Fall" is Bogie's last film. RIP
Mar-03-17
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  HeMateMe: <https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hLWbbQcW5js/...>
Mar-04-17
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  ColeTrane: Nice little Jimmy Cliff reference, a true ganja mon.
Jun-17-17
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  perfidious: <HMM>, that piano player was Dooley Wilson, who was a drummer, but could not play the piano.

In the later Bogart film <To Have and Have Not>, pianist Hoagy Carmichael was, on the other hand, quite adept at the instrument.

Jul-26-17  wtpy: Perfidious, No doubt; Hoagie was the man and not a bad actor for a piano player. My favorite line from To Have and Have Not: "Did you ever get stung by a dead bee?"
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